OldiesLover's Strange Dreams (Album 1)

[OldiesLover]

Since MATURE TALK is a nice quiet lil place... I'll start this Thread in here with ta Mature Folks.
:cry:

Dreams is something that has always interested me. So inside this thread, I'm going to explore a number of Strange Dreams. If ya wish, join in.

But please realize, dreams ain't about reality. Therefore, please, none of tis "Disturbin' Images" bullshit.

If ya don't like the dreams in here, or the nightmares, please... simply wake up and have a cup of coffee in another Sub-Forum.
:evillaugh:

Ok, here is my first dream:

I believe this dream has somethin' ta do with sex.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Here's a strange dream for sure. As with most dreams, I just kinda shake my head and wunder where the Hell that came from.
:why::why::why:

[OldiesLover]

In tis dream, I'm in a body of water, but there's somethin floatin' around me... and ta damn things are distractin' me from my great sex...
:puzzled:

[OldiesLover]

Ok... Dis ain't no dream... it's a fuckin' nightmare. I usually get dis after a day arguin' with a FBWW.
:donotwant:

[OldiesLover]

I've never riden' subways much, so I think this is a bus. I once rode ta bus to work in downtown LA every day... So maybe this dream comes from all the short naps I took on the bus ride in those days.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

As some of ya know, my Father was a Quaker Minister. Hence, I am what is commonly known as a... PK (Preacher's Kid).
:evillaugh:

It is because of all ta bullshit and Hypocrites I grew up with, that I have always been an Atheist.

This dream comes from tis, I'm fairly sure.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

I thought fur a long time that this dream was about ta light in my workshop... so I changed it.

But I still have ta dream. Maybe it's about ta paintin' I need ta do?
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

This dream is of course in black & white... but with no sound whatsoever.
:tired:

[OldiesLover]

This dream comes when I know I only have a couple hours ta sleep.
:distressed:

[OldiesLover]

Some nights are just great fur sleepin'... There's a cold breeze coming through the window, the bed is nice and warm, everything's nice and quiet... & I'm feelin' great.
:relax::relax::relax:

[OldiesLover]

Now when ya get in yur 50's guys... Ya find yourself gettin' up a couple times each night ta take a piss... So ya have a few dreams that hit just before ya wake up ta head ta the bathroom...
:miserable:

[OldiesLover]

Here's another dream when yur bladder begins ta bust...
:runaway:

[OldiesLover]

This dreams hits when I've been thinkin' too much about somethin'... but I don't know what it is.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Ever have dreams that are so real, they're Super Real?
:dizzy:

[OldiesLover]

I call tis dream... "In the RAW."
:dunno:

[OldiesLover]

Hummm... This dream? Well, it's quite enjoyable in its own way.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

I had tis dream the other night after watchin' CNN talk about the New Sins as Proclaimed by the Pope & the Catholic Church.
:barf:

[OldiesLover]

An tis dream came after watchin' CNN talk about ta War On Terror.
:notagain:

[OldiesLover]

Sometimes I fall ta sleep on my lounge chair stretched outback on my backyard patio...
:zzz:

[OldiesLover]

I think there's a direct relationship between tis dream... and ta quality of sex I had just before fallin' ta sleep...
:petrified:

[OldiesLover]

My kids are all grown up now and well inta their 30's... But I still dream about the ol' days as a lil family...
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Every so often ta older ya get... ya get a case of anxiety about growin' old... Then a dream like tis appears.
:giveup:

[OldiesLover]

Another dream that leaves you pondering... What ta fuck?
:nuts:

[OldiesLover]

I'm gonna haveta learn how to focus out all this celebrity bullshit!
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

I love those dreams while nappin' down by ta swimming pool...
:relax::relax::relax:

[OldiesLover]

As some guys know in here... I like playin' tennis. At one time in my life, I played tennis several hours a day...
:blush:

[OldiesLover]

Also, besides tennis... I love a day goin' deep sea fishin' while taking along plenty of beer!
:full::full::full:

[OldiesLover]

Did I ever mention that my Lil Korean Dragon Lady goes ta yoga classes at least 3 times a week?
:whisper:

Damn, I sure wish my cell phone made bigger pictures!

[OldiesLover]

Don't ya hate those dreams with ex-lovers in'em?
:abandoned:

[OldiesLover]

Some dreams just seem ta go on & on...
:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

[OldiesLover]

Strange dreams mean some strange characters... where ya just don't know what you're dealin' with.
:abandoned:

[OldiesLover]

Lately, there has been all sorts of religious bullshit poppin' up in our 2008 Presidential Campaigns.
:dizzy:

[OldiesLover]

Oh... Ta freedom of the Open Countryside... I gotta take some time off work and hit ta road real soon.
:bye::bye::bye:

[OldiesLover]

We got some afternoon nookie couple weeks back...
:whisper::whisper::whisper:

[OldiesLover]

A friend was tellin' me that they are so stressed out with work, they can't get ta sleep. Typically, I don't have such a problem, because I simply wash everything outta my brain and start ta envision a fantasy... Presto... I'm fast ta sleep.
:payup::payup::payup:

[OldiesLover]

I wunder... How much does women's dreams and men's dreams... differ?
:evil:

[OldiesLover]

I guess since I've been divorced twice...
:nuts::nuts::nuts:

[OldiesLover]

Here's another interestin' lil dream... At least it starts out innocently enough...
:whisper:

[OldiesLover]

They say a very common dream is when ya feel all naked and such...
:rofl:

[OldiesLover]

Then, there's ta dream where ya figured out ta answer to all the World's problems...
:attention::attention::attention:

[OldiesLover]

After tis dream... I'm gonna have nice Steak N' Eggs Breakfast!
:perfect::perfect::perfect:

[OldiesLover]

As I chat with young dudes these days, ta Internet has changed everything when it gets to young men's fantasy material. Yes, back in ta Good Ol' Days... We had nothin' but these fur fantasy materials... But damn, they worked.
:please:

[OldiesLover]

I never dream about fuckin' video games... Only real games.
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

Ya know how ya get some really good boners while sleepin'?
:cry:

[OldiesLover]

When ya see tis in yur sleep... wake up and go get ya an ice cold beer!
:full:

[OldiesLover]

Fuck countin' sheep!
:tired:

(CLICK)

[OldiesLover]

Here's a sweet dream...
:hero:

[OldiesLover]

This dream will take 2 Posts...
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

Ain't this a nice relaxin' dream?
:zzz::zzz::zzz:

[OldiesLover]

I'm drivin' down the road and go ta make a left turn, and this fucker cuts me off... and then flips me the bird.
:angry:

Then I dream about killin' ta lil shitfurbrains!
:miserable:

[OldiesLover]

I greatly enjoy all Asian cuisine... The hotter and spicier, the better.
:exhausted:

[OldiesLover]

As they say, "Never go to bed angry."
:angry::angry::angry:

[OldiesLover]

Hummmm.... I wonder.
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

I once read a whole article about mirrors in dreams, which was full of some interestin' shit, but the main point was that mirrors aren't really a good thing in dreams.
:miserable:

[OldiesLover]

Her name is Diane, American name of course... and after all these years, she still appears in my dreams.
:notagain:

[OldiesLover]

Saw tis goin' up ta escalator one day... Dreamed about fur several days afterwards. Sure wish this type of dress was around more often. Only on Asian babes, of course.
:wait:

[OldiesLover]

Have ya ever fallen a sleep in ta livin' room... and dreamed your freckin' head off?
:why:

[OldiesLover]

I still remember as a lil kid back in ta 50's, watchin' The Wizard Of Oz, and havin' nightmares for days.
:ban:

[OldiesLover]

Almost all summer nights, ta Lil Dragon Lady an I go for long walks or maybe a runnin' workout through the woods near by... and on some of those nights, we'll haveta watch out for bats flying around. Crazy lil fuckers... They are.
:miserable::miserable::miserable:

[OldiesLover]

Some dreams come in fragments... sorta.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Yes, Yes I do remember ta 50's...
:puzzled:

[OldiesLover]

Had a crush on tis babe since 1967, and still dream about her...
:love:

[OldiesLover]

:whistle::whistle::whistle:

[OldiesLover]

I keep tellin' some of my Ol' Buddies, "Damn, leave those freckin' FBWW's alone. What are ya... Stupid or somethin'?"
:oy:

Some of their women give me nightmares... Fortunately, I don't haveta live with them.
:cry:

Of course, on the side, many of them come around and ask, "Hey OldiesLover, what is it about those Asian babes? Are they really as good as you say they are?"
:whisper:

I figure if they haveta ask... Fuckem'. I just chuckle and grin a lil.
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

This painting done by one of my favorite artists, Boris Vallego, is called.... Opium Dream.
:evillaugh:
http://www.imaginistix.com/ (http://www.imaginistix.com/)

[OldiesLover]

Some dreams are nowhere close to B & W...
:full:

[OldiesLover]

When it comes to Dreams, there are 2 Schools Of Thought. One, all dreams have a meaning. Second, Dreams have utterly... No Meaning.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Some dreams move from image to image with an underlyin' theme...
:snicker:

[OldiesLover]

Some dreams are the work of NAOTO KAWAHARA:
:perfect:

[OldiesLover]

More NAOTO KAWAHARA:
:bow:

[OldiesLover]

This dream, if ya ever have it... is called: The Origin Of The World.
:attention:

[OldiesLover]

Yes... I can usually sleep very well on a plane... If there's no one around to bother me...
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

As I have mentioned elsewhere in this forum, I was a youngster in the 50's and 60's, and raised both in the midwest and the south.

We were taught in those days, what was supposedly the perfect woman, a woman we were supposed to dream for.

Here, is a lil representation of this perfect woman, taken directly from a magazine from those days.

As I look at this picture... of this representation of the "ideal & perfect" woman, today... I say to myself...

[OldiesLover]

Hummm... This lil dream is about some strange shit...

[OldiesLover]

Here's what they call a... "Penn Station Nightmare."
:cry:

[OldiesLover]

Another interestin' dream... Being the agnostic that I am.
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

And in the same frame of mind... I think.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

I've always felt that people are way too hung up with negativity on sex... When some images should be shown with the size of a building. Of course, there are way too many stupid people out there, aren't there?

[OldiesLover]

Why is it that just as we're gonna finish up a busy day with some great sex... that we haveta do some of the unsexiest of chores?
:miserable:

[OldiesLover]

I'm ready ta play when you are...

[OldiesLover]

Speakin' of playing...

[OldiesLover]

Sleep Experts, or let's say Dream Experts, say that we dream about humans with a super human perspective. Inotherwords, we dream about people doin' things that most people cannot do. These Experts have no idea why we do this, although some believe it's connected to the human need to believe in Gods or a God.

[OldiesLover]

In this same line of thought, these Dream Experts say we can have super human strength when dreaming.

[OldiesLover]

There's one thing I've found out about white women... No matter what they do, they can never be like Asian women. Yet, some of them try...

[OldiesLover]

Here's a very nice chair...

[OldiesLover]

Before I get distracted, the Dream Experts I was just talkin' about, also say that we are usually only observers in our dreams.

Hence, we are watching what's going on in our dreams much more that being involved with what's going on. You know... Sorta like real life.
:cry:

[OldiesLover]

Therefore, much of our dreams are in shadows or shades of darkness.

[OldiesLover]

People in our dreams, especially people we know, are often out of direct indentification. While dreaming, we use a sixth sense to know who we are with inside our dreams.

[OldiesLover]

So, while in our dreamstates, we can do things with others inside our dreams we wouldn't even consider in real life. Or at least, not consciously.

Sub-consciously? Well, that's another matter all together.
:snicker:

[OldiesLover]

Additionally, these Dream Experts say that when we look at someone inside our dreams, we can often understand what they're thinking.

Supposedly, we carry this skill throughout our wake state, so we're always thinking we know what people are thinking, when in reality, very rarely do we know what other people are really thinking about, including those closest to us.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

If you wish ta test what I'm talking about, that's simple.

:full:

That a look at this lil babe. Now: What is she thinking about?
:nuts:

[OldiesLover]

On another subject, I believe that futons are the perfect dreamin' device!
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

I also believe, no matter how old the history, it'll will always keep coming back inside your dreams.
:giveup:

[OldiesLover]

:whisper:
The present is also there, of course.

[OldiesLover]

Then there's the times ya do not want ta talk about.
:wait:

[OldiesLover]

:abandoned::abandoned::abandoned:

[OldiesLover]

I have stayed in hundreds of different motels and hotels over the years, for literally 1000's of nights. Countless times, I took a piece of paper with the name of the city I was in written on it, and placed it next to my bed... so incase I woke up during the night, I would remember where I was. (And her name.)
:dizzy:

[OldiesLover]

Some of the Strangest Dreams... are Motel Dreams.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

More Motel Dreams...

[OldiesLover]

Hummm... my 100th Strange Dream.
:full:

[OldiesLover]

:whistle::whistle::whistle:

[OldiesLover]

Here's a pair of legs and an ass... that'd make ya dream about them.
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

They say that all fetishes are rooted in your dreams. This strikes me as quite odd... since I rarely dream about fetishes. But many people I have talked to about this, dream about their fetishes all the time.

Sometimes, ya just shake your head... and keep goin'.
:runaway:

[OldiesLover]

:love::love::love:
Interestin' look in her eyes...

[OldiesLover]

:nice::nice::nice:
Time ta sleep... Time ta dream...

[OldiesLover]

Here's a dream...
:bow:

[OldiesLover]

Another interestin' topic is gender in dreams. Again, goin' to the Dream Experts, they say many people, probably a very large percentage of people, change genders during their dreams.

Supposedly, this is true no matter what your gender and sexual attractions. Or inotherwords, both hetro and homosexual people experience gender changes during some dreams.

Again, these Dream Experts are at somewhat of a loss as to why this happens.
:dunno:

[OldiesLover]

I have always liked the term: Liquid Dreams

It has been used as the name of a surf shop, a postcard company and even a movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104735/

Anyways, here's my Liquid Dreams...
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

:full::full::full:

Dreams of Diamonds and Velvet...

[OldiesLover]

Sometimes... You know there's something sexy about her, but ya can't quite place why...

[OldiesLover]

As ya can see... Lots of dreams are in B & W...

[OldiesLover]

Just take a minute to look closely at this lil dream...

[OldiesLover]

And tis one... well, medical doctors report that women who have shaved their heads because of various medical treatments, have found 1000's of men were attracted to them.

[OldiesLover]

:oy::oy::oy:

[OldiesLover]

:hero::hero::hero:

[OldiesLover]

Ah yes... Another Motel Dream.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Have ya ever watched her sleep and know she's dreamin' about something interesting... and ya would just love ta get into her dream and...
:exhausted:

[OldiesLover]

Here's a strange lil picture, called Yellow Rose, was taken by Leonard Nimoy.

[OldiesLover]

:nice::nice::nice:

[OldiesLover]

I wonder...

[OldiesLover]

Hummm...
:love::love::love:

[oldies8ladies]

very much hum.................. we were wondering, or i should say that (michelle, Yijie & me (tang) ) were wondering when looking at your dreams if you ever have dreams like:

a) "making love" in a dressing room with your g/f

b) "making love" in an airplane

c) "making love" on a bus / or train / subway

you have some nice nice pictures - but we were wondering about your other fantasy's that YOU not say ............................

You have a nice nice mind .................................

hugs (michelle - Yijie & tang)

[OldiesLover]

very much hum.................. we were wondering, or i should say that (michelle, Yijie & me (tang) ) were wondering when looking at your dreams if you ever have dreams like:

a) "making love" in a dressing room with your g/f

b) "making love" in an airplane

c) "making love" on a bus / or train / subway

you have some nice nice pictures - but we were wondering about your other fantasy's that YOU not say ............................

You have a nice nice mind .................................

hugs (michelle - Yijie & tang)

Ahhh... My Beautiful Ladies have come ta see me in my quiet lil Strange Dream Thread.
:love::love::love:

Well, as my wise ladies know, there's a big difference between dreams and fantasies.

Fantasies are something we have in our Awake State and are much more controllable.

Dreams are something we have inside our Dream State while we're asleep, and are therefore... something we have almost no control over.

Let me take your question, part a). Per se, I do not recall ever having a dream about sex in a Dressing Room. As a matter of fact, I've never had much of a fantasy about sex in a Dressing Room. Although, I have had sex in a Dressing Room a few times, so I don't have much of a Fantasy Base to work with.

You see, I feel that for good fantasies, you need to fantasize about something you've never done before. Hence... you can fantasize about it without reality breaking the spell. Once you've done it, especially a few times, you don't have much of a base to fantasize from anymore. You go off to fantasize about something else. Something you've never done before.

The same goes for your b) and c). Although I once had these fantasies, now that I've had sex in all of these various situations, I don't fantasize much about them anymore.
:cry::cry::cry:

Dreams... Come from a collection of craziness in your brain, of which you have very little control of.
:evillaugh::evillaugh::evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

As I've mentioned, and will probably discuss more later on, there are a number of Types of Dreams, such as; Motel Dreams and Mirror Dreams.

Another type of dream is: Flying Dreams.

Believe it or not, Flying Dreams are found ta be quite common.
:bingo:

[HongKongDr]

Well both " oldieslover " and "oldies7ladies" brought up a good point -

Dream vs Fantasy ..................................... So about dreaming - I realize that this is OldiesLover thread - but it is interesting about "oldieslover" dreams - and the " oldies7ladies" brought up "fantasy" also - so what is a dream???????????????????

What is a Dream?

We all dream. Every night - as we dim the light of consciousness - we enter the realm of the dream. In this dream state our imagination runs free with little or no interference from our conscious mind. In the morning, when we awaken and return to consciousness, we may bring with us a recollection of the wanderings of our imagination - we remember the dream.

To dream is natural, it is a universal experience. All people of all cultures enter into this dream state when they sleep. As sleep research has shown even animal dreams. How we regard the dream, however, varies from culture to culture and from person to person.

Unfortunately most of us remain blissfully unaware of our dreams - we fail to remember them. Even if we do remember a dream it is typically dismissed as meaningless and unimportant. For those of us who do place an importance on dream it still remains a mystery. So what is a dream?

Dreams - God's forgotten language

Originally the dream was held to be the voice of God. Most indigenous cultures hold that the dream is sent by the Great Spirit and serves to offer advice and instruction.
This idea of the divinity of the dream can also to be found in ancient Egyptian and Greek society.

In the Old Testament Jacob interprets a dream for the Egyptian pharaoh. Jacob explains that God has spoken to the pharaoh and warned of seven years of prosperity to be followed by seven years of famine.

In Egypt and Greece the dream was considered as a message from the gods. In both Egyptian and Greek society there existed temples where one would go to dream and receive healing or instruction from the gods. Homers Iliad (8th century BC) tells the story of Agamemnon who receives instruction from Zeus through a dream. Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, used dreams as a diagnostic aid.

The Christian tradition the dream was thought of as the word of God, or the work of the devil. St. John Chrysostom preached that God revealed himself through dreams whilst other church fathers, such as Martin Luther, viewed the dream as the work, not of God, but the Devil. According to Luther it was the church, and only the church, who was the conduit of God's word. For Luther revelations made to people in dreams could only be diabolic.

In the near East the dream was considered to be a source of divine inspiration. Mohammed, the founding prophet of the Islamic culture, is said to have received much of what is written in the Koran through his dreams.

The Rediscovery of the Dream

In the Christian epoch the church and its scriptures supplanted the importance of the dream. The dominance of Christianity obscured the divinity of the dream, which was now studied by only the superstitious. The rise of rationalism and science further undermined the value of the dream. To this day scepticism toward the value dream remains the predominant attitude.

In the early part of this century, however, the dream was championed by two "TRULY " great psychologists, Sigmund Freud (sorta like) and Carl Jung (who was totally brilliant).

For Freud looked at the dream in the concept that the dream revealed that which the dreamer would rather keep hidden. By exploring the dream one was forced to face that which was suppressed and rejected within oneself.

Then Carl Jung had truly a totally another theory. Jung felt that the dream acted as a mirror for the ego - revealing that which was missing within the consciousness of the dreamer. For Jung the dream acted as a teacher and guide on the road toward wholeness. With the work of both Jung and Freud the dream regained its status as a source of wisdom and healing.

Even science and rationalism has returned to valuing the dream. Research into sleep cycles and dream states has revealed that disturbed sleep, where dreaming phases are interrupted, result in more disturbances of the personality than disturbed sleep where non-dreaming phases are interrupted.

Dreams, Healing & Wholeness

In his work with both patients and clients, Dr. Jung witnessed the natural healing mechanism of the dream. The dream acted in such a way as to amend a lop sided or partial perspective on life. A series of dreams would develop, balance and refine the conscious awareness of the dreamer. Jung had rediscovered the age old wisdom of the dream and its capacity to heal and make whole.

In Dr. Jungs patients the dream imagery and themes would present themselves in such a way that that the healing of the psyche would proceed. As the therapist all Jung need do was to help and encourage his patients to understand their own dreams. For Jung it was the dreams, not the doctor, who was the healer.

NOTE: by saying this statement about the "dreams" are the "HEALER" does this mean that " OLDIESLOVER" dreams are HEALING "oldieslover"??????????

Having solved their original problems and balanced out their sanity many of Jungs patients continued on with their psychotherapeutic work with Jung. For they did not stop dreaming. Instead the dreams seemed to focus on a whole new set of untouched problems and issues. No sooner had one difficulty been resolved when another, of even greater complexity and depth, would present itself. And again the dream would provide the healing and answers.

In this pattern of raising one issue after another Jung recognised more than a healing mechanism at work within the dream. Apart from healing, the dreams also seemed to be encouraging and actively participating in the growth and development of the personality. Jung termed this inherent drive of the psyche as the force of individuation, the force by which we become whole and indivisible.

Both in himself and in his clients Jung pursued the way of the dream and became a student to its teachings. It was in this way that Jung helped to usher in the new religious paradigm, which has come to be known as the idea of Self-development.

Individuation & the Creation of Consciousness

In the beginning of time there was nothing, all was dark and still. At the heart of this darkness groped a god. Then there was light - and the whole of creation came into existence.

First there was nothing and then there was light - so runs the creation myth of almost every culture. Even western science postulates the idea of a Big Bang - an explosion of light from out of the void. Light emerging from darkness is a universal theme.

Light emerged from out of the darkness. Whilst we may never know the legitimacy of such a claim it does reflects the most basic of all psychological principles, that is, the known is born out of the unknown.

The psyche, or mind, is made up of two distinct fields- the conscious and the unconscious mind. The conscious mind is also referred to as the ego (from the Latin meaning 'I').

The ego, or conscious mind, represents our awareness and capacity for thought and self-reflection, whilst the unconscious houses our instinctive wisdom and patterns of behaviour.

The ego, as we now know it, is a relatively new development of the psyche. We have not always possessed the capacity for self-reflective thought. At some stage in our past we where in no position to have that most simple of thoughts - I am.

Just as light was born of the darkness the ego has formed from out of the matrix of the unconscious. This creation of consciousness is re-enacted with every new life. One need only witness the development of a young child to see this miracle take place.
The creation of consciousness is ongoing. If you look back upon yourself you will find that you are more aware now than you were say a year ago. Your not different, just more fully who you've always been.

Active within the unconscious is a creative force which seeks consciousness - the unconscious seeks to be made known. This drive toward consciousness is the force of individuation - the force by which we come to realise our greater potential.

The birth of the ego was only the start. Now we have reached a point where the collective ego, that is, the conscious awareness common to us all, is well developed - simply look at our culture, our technology and our history. Yet, despite our achievements, the latent potential of the unconscious is in no way exhausted. There is still plenty of darkness which seeks the light.

Meeting the Unconscious

The activity of the unconscious may be found within all aspects of our lives. It is there in our relationships, in our aspirations, our difficulties, health and the fate we attract. As Jung would often quote, called or uncalled God is always present.

The ego cannot escape its destined encounter with the unconscious. Take for example the problem of love and hate. What we fail to see in our selves we often find attractive in other. What we deny within we battle outwardly. So too, the circumstances of our life are often designed to teach us exactly what it is that we need to learn. Illness often conceals a hidden wisdom. The ego cannot escape the unconscious just as we cannot escape our own birth.

The ego's encounter with the unconscious need not be negative. There is the easy and the hard way and everything in between. In failing to open to the unconscious then it simply forces itself upon one. If ones attitude is willing then the encounter with the unconscious need not be forced. That is the problem. How does one open to the unconscious? Its like asking someone to find their way in the dark.

The way of the dream offers an alternative. For the dream belongs to the twilight zone of consciousness - where the ego and the unconscious meet.

The conscious element of the dream lies in its remembrance, the unconscious element lies in its mystery and perplexity. Half conscious, half unconscious, the dream acts as a bridge between the known and the unknown.

To listen to ones dreams is to listen to the unconscious. Through doing so one relieves the need for the unconscious to force itself upon you.

SOURCE: excerpts from CARL JUNG BIO

[OldiesLover]

Ahhh... HongKongDr, Welcome To OldiesLover's Strange Dreams. I'm glad you an Oldies Ladies have stepped into my quiet lil hideaway thread.
:nice:

Carl Jung hey? Wasn't he Sigmund Freud's gay lover, and after a 6 year relationship, they got into a lover's quarrel... and hence, we now have Psychiatrists(?).
:evillaugh:

Having read up on sleep and dreaming quite a bit over the past 30 years or so, I have a sneaky feeling that Psychiatrists and the like... Have absolutely no clue as to what dreams are really all about. It's just that they won't come out and say it.

For example... What would they say about this Dream?

[OldiesLover]

NOTE: by saying this statement about the "dreams" are the "HEALER" does this mean that " OLDIESLOVER" dreams are HEALING "oldieslover"??????????

Ahhh... HongKongDr, Look Close... Here's a Healing Dream. I think I'll add Healing Dreams to My List of Dream Topics.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

As HongKongDr has brought to our attention, historical figures such as Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung and Edgar Cayce... Plus, all sorts of other religious characters, have purported they know the Mystery Behind Dreams.

Even countless numbers of scientists and medical experts have proclaimed the answers.

However, none of them have an explaination as to why do babies dream. We know they do... But what could they possibly be dreaming about? They have no memories. They have no life experiences. Supposedly, they have nothing to dream about... So why are they always dreaming?
:oy::oy::oy:

[OldiesLover]

Of course, Sigmund Freud believed in Penis Envy, too.
:cry::cry::cry:

[OldiesLover]

As HongKongDr has brought to our attention, historical figures such as Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung and Edgar Cayce... Plus, all sorts of other religious characters, have proported they know the Mystery Behind Dreams.

Even countless numbers of scientists and medical experts have proclaimed the answers.

However, none of them have an explaination as to why do babies dream. We know they do... But what could they possibly be dreaming about? They have no memories. They have no life experiences. Supposedly, they have nothing to dream about... So why are they always dreaming?
:oy::oy::oy:

I know what I dreamed about as a baby!
:zzz::zzz::zzz:

[oldies8ladies]

But what could they possibly be dreaming about? They have no memories. They have no life experiences. Supposedly, they have nothing to dream about... So why are they always dreaming?
:oy:

Well here we go again with " oldieslover " - brings up the question and we love to find an answer for "oldieslover " questions - (hehe) -

So this might be the answer - this might not be the answer - but it is a way - it might not be " THE WAY " - it might not be " YOUR WAY " - but it is "A WAY" .....................................

Dreams & babies...................................

From little smiles to frowns, and fluttering eyes to twitches, the face of a sleeping baby is very expressive. What is happening during this time? The research that endeavors to answer this question tells us quite a bit about the stages of sleep. What it cannot tell us definitively is whether babies are actually dreaming while they sleep.

Sleep Stages

Sleep is divided into two stages – active sleep and quiet sleep. Active sleep is characterized by rapid movement of the eye and is also known as rapid eye movement or REM sleep. Dreaming occurs during this stage. Non-REM sleep, also called quiet sleep, consists of four phases: drowsiness, light sleep, deep sleep and very deep sleep.

Newborn sleep patterns start with a brief REM stage, progress through the four stages of quiet sleep, and move into REM sleep to begin the whole cycle again.

The exact function of REM sleep has been debated, but all researchers recognize its importance. Theories suggest that REM sleep assists with brain development, even affecting babies in utero. Researchers credit REM sleep with providing visual imagery that helps the mental development of the fetus.

This theory is supported by further research that indicates that as we age, we require less REM sleep. Fetuses have about 100% REM sleep, two-year-olds 25%, adults 20% and the elderly about 15%. In other words, the body provides babies with more REM sleep because it is needed for their rapid brain development. As brain development slows, the amount of REM sleep decreases, diminishing almost to adult levels by the toddler years.

REM and Dreams

Researchers know that older children and adults have vivid dreams during REM sleep. Some research suggests that the same may not be true of newborns. According to an Australian study, the part of the brain that is active during adult REM sleep is not as active during newborn REM sleep. The study’s authors question whether newborns are dreaming in the sense that we recognize it.

Because infants have large amounts of REM sleep, most people choose to believe that they dream, much like adults do. Some think that babies in utero dream about the light they see and the sounds they hear – heartbeats, voices and music. After they’re born their dreams are likely influenced by the wide variety of sensory stimulation they encounter.

REM and Wakefulness

Babies spend more time in REM sleep and, until about three months of age, need to go through an REM phase before entering quiet sleep. With the greater amount of REM sleep comes more chances that babies will be roused from sleep throughout the night as they move between sleep stages. (Parents of sleepless newborns may find comfort in knowing that they are struggling against biology and not a medical problem.)

Babies and Bad Dreams

Research and anecdotal evidence show that nightmares or “bad dreams” occur most frequently between three and five years of age. Anyone who has heard a young baby awaken with a loud cry would disagree, as does pediatrician Alan Greene.

Dr. Greene believes that babies can and do have nightmares. Babies can get stress from pain, hunger and being left alone. Stress can lead to tears and in Dr. Greene’s words, “…anything worth crying about is worth dreaming about.” He feels that babies’ brains address both the pleasant and unpleasant things in their lives through dreams.

Sleep Like a Baby?

Frequent waking and brain development, REM, non-REM, dreaming or not, there is a lot going on during an infant’s sleep. All that activity makes one wonder where the expression “sleep like a baby” ever came from, doesn’t it?

SOURCE: Dreams & Babies - Professor's House -

[OldiesLover]

Oh Ladies, I like your answer.
:love::love::love:

As you read this information, I'm fairly sure you walk away with a feeling that they really don't know exactly what's going on in Baby Dreams. Although, here is one theory:

[OldiesLover]

But then again, maybe Baby Dreams are as simple as... "Hey, Give Me Some Damn Milk!"
:please::please::please:

P.S. This is obviously a Boy Baby!

[OldiesLover]

This is a combination Flying, Falling and "I've Fallin' And I Can't Get Up" Dream.
:giveup::giveup::giveup:

[OldiesLover]

Some people report that they feel invisible while dreamin'
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Let's consider this dream a lil bit...
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

Now this lil dream should have you wunderin' a bit... also.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

And here's another dream that ya might want ta consider...
:miserable:

Many people have reported such dreams just before a major accident or medical crisis... Hummmm....
:miserable:

Ya might want ta take a long hard look at this lil dream.
:miserable:

[OldiesLover]

Here's a Series of Strange Dreams from John Jacobmeyer...

[OldiesLover]

This Strange Dream is called, Christine... Kinda like ta Movie.
:full:

[OldiesLover]

This Series of Strange Dreams are from a Japanese dude, Atsushi Tani:

[OldiesLover]

Many say that Dreams are actually images from our Past Lives. Obviously, this is based upon a belief in reincarnation & such, of which I don't believe is possible. However, here's a dream that if it is comin' from a past life... then please, let me go back to it!
:hero:

[OldiesLover]

Every so often, because I'm travelin' alone, or I'm parted from my Lil Korean Dragon Lady for a few days, so I start ta feel the juices backin' up... I'll have a dream somethin' like this one...
:snicker:

[OldiesLover]

In this same line of thought as in the above Post... Here's another Series of Dreams. As you can see... Fortunately, My Lil Korean Dragon Lady and I aren't apart very often.
:exhausted:

[OldiesLover]

And since I'm chattin' about My Lil Dragon Lady, here's a dream I have when she has been pesterin' the hell outta me about somethin'
:tired::tired::tired:

[OldiesLover]

I once dated an Asian babe who swore that she fell asleep everytime she started ta pray. I told her that at least her religion was good fur somethin'.
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

And the same Asian babe from the above Post... Well you wouldn't believe what else she loved doin' while ya watched... It was like a Private Show of some kind.
:whisper::whisper::whisper:

[OldiesLover]

Then, there was tis other Asian babe that I dated fur awhile... Well, maybe I'd better not get inta that story... But I still dream about her every so often.
:puzzled:

[OldiesLover]

Then there's those dreams that just seem ta tear your insides apart...
:sick:

[OldiesLover]

There's also a dream that I'd call the Robin Hood Dream...
:nuts:

[OldiesLover]

It is also reported that many people have, for the lack of another name... Animal Dreams. A common one is where animals are stalking you for some reason, probably to eat you.

Some of those Dream Experts I've been mentioning, feel this dream actually comes through our genetic coding in some way, because of all the 1000's of years that we were prey... not predators.

Of course, this is the only explaination that they can "Dream Up," since almost none of us have ever been trully stalked by a wild animal of any kind.
:dunno:

[OldiesLover]

Another common dream is when the dreamer begs for something... such as food, sex or ta stay alive.
:bow:

[OldiesLover]

Hummm... I'm at my 150th Dream. I guess I'll post my lil Jin.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

My second wife (and hence, my second divorce) was a Puerto Rican blonde (Sorta blonde anyways.)... who I must still deal with inside my dreams every so often.
:cry:

[OldiesLover]

My second wife (and hence, my second divorce) was a Puerto Rican blonde... who I still must deal with in my dreams every so often.
:cry:


But ta be fair, I have a couple Asian ex-g/f's I also dream about. But only in B & W.
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

Now I gotta admit, when I dream about my previous Asian girlfriends and relationships... I've never had a nightmare or such.

However, the white women I've been with... Well, that's entirely another matter.
:donotwant:

[OldiesLover]

Yes, as I mentioned in the previous Post...
:giveup:

[OldiesLover]

In a few Posts back, I stated that futons are great sleepin' devices. I own several of them. I swear, they are built ta make ya dream your freckin' head off.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Here's some more Dream Expert's advice. Really good sex just before sleep makes for some very good sleeping afterwards, because of all the hormones released during heavy sex.

So, again, as per ta Expert's advice... Get ya a big piece of plastic sheeting and spread it out on the floor. Then, get out a bottle of 100% Virgin Olive Oil, and...
:evillaugh:

Remember, you're just followin' an Expert's advice. Have Fun!!!
:love:

[OldiesLover]

Also, from the same Dream Experts...

They say that when you sleep with a sexual partner, that many times during the night, you will open your eyes and look at them. This adds sexual simulation to your dreams.

Most times, you do not even remember what you saw, but your brain does, along with other parts of your anatomy.
:evillaugh:


So I tested this lil theory out for myself...
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Many lil children are told that the particles in their eyes when they wake up in the morning... was put there by The Sandman. Kind of a Bogey Man of sorts.

This stimulates all sorts of dreams & nightmares in children, and even remains with many adults.

Hence, we have The Sandman Dream.

Here is my Sandman Dream...
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

Here's another series of dreams I have on occasion. I've often considered its meaning...
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

As a youngster, I lived within walking distance of what we would call an amusement park. It was an interesting place to hang out in those days.

Once in awhile, I'll dream of those days...

[OldiesLover]

Back in the 60's, there was a television show called, The Twilight Zone. Oh yes, the good ol' days when you watched Twilight Zone shows for the first time, and you had no idea what was going ta happen. Anyways...

In that television series, there was a segment about a ventriloquist who you found out at the end of the show a lil surprise about which one was the real dummy.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Here is a lil dream brought to us by one of my favorite photographers, Chip Willis.

Note, The previous post was also another of his powerful photos.

I find this picture sorta interestin'... As I do with most of Chip Willis' work.

[OldiesLover]

Another of my favorite photographers is a dude by the name of James Graham.

I share his dreamin' about sexy Asian babes... so I'm gonna show some of his works in a couple posts or so. Some may like them as much as I do...

[OldiesLover]

More Asian Dreams from James Graham...

[OldiesLover]

:beautiful::beautiful::beautiful:

[OldiesLover]

I Thank James for these excellent pictures. We are both fans of Iggy and The Stooges...
:evillaugh:

[oldies8ladies]

Here's another series of dreams I have on occasion. I've often considered its meaning...
:oy:

hum - here we are again with " oldieslover " dreams -

meaning ...............................

DANCE: Joyous participation in life. Movement as transcendence. Success in love. Big prosperity. Change for the better.

DARK: Mystery. The unknown and unformed. A place of fear or of potential. Difficulties ahead.

DEATH: End of a cycle. Something is finally over.

DOLL: Domestic happiness. Relationship practice. Ready to be more caring.

HANGING: Lack of communication. Must control passions.

BALLET: Infidelity with lover. Warning of troubles. Culture.

WAREHOUSE: Ready to put away some feelings.......

That is just things about this dream (hehe) ........... Hugs......... "Tang" and the girls .............

[OldiesLover]

hum - here we are again with " oldieslover " dreams -

meaning ...............................

DANCE: Joyous participation in life. Movement as transcendence. Success in love. Big prosperity. Change for the better.

DARK: Mystery. The unknown and unformed. A place of fear or of potential. Difficulties ahead.

DEATH: End of a cycle. Something is finally over.

DOLL: Domestic happiness. Relationship practice. Ready to be more caring.

HANGING: Lack of communication. Must control passions.

BALLET: Infidelity with lover. Warning of troubles. Culture.

WAREHOUSE: Ready to put away some feelings.......

That is just things about this dream (hehe) ........... Hugs......... "Tang" and the girls .............


Thank You Oldies Ladies for this Excellent Dream Analysis.

I especially like the DOLL. It reminds me of this strange lil dream:

[OldiesLover]

Dream Experts say that we actually dream many of our dreams in silhouette...
:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

[OldiesLover]

I'm not entirely sure... But I believe this dream comes from my vacation with 4 of the Oldies Ladies.

Oldies Ladies, do you guys remember where we were when tis picture was taken?
:oy:

[oldies8ladies]

I'm not entirely sure... But I believe this dream comes from my vacation with 4 of the Oldies Ladies.

Oldies Ladies, do you guys remember where we were when tis picture was taken?
:oy:

Dear Mr. "OldiesLover"

We have asked you NOT NOT NOT to share with others the pictures that YOU have of us ---- some of the other personnel here at this place will get very UPSET with you and NOT like it that YOU have these many ladies to run with.......... so yes, we know where this picture was taken -

Do you know where it was taken? (hehe)

Hugs ......."Tang and the girls" -

[OldiesLover]

Dear Mr. "OldiesLover"

We have asked you NOT NOT NOT to share with others the pictures that YOU have of us ---- some of the other personnel here at this place will get very UPSET with you and NOT like it that YOU have these many ladies to run with.......... so yes, we know where this picture was taken -

Do you know where it was taken? (hehe)

Hugs ......."Tang and the girls" -

I know, I promised not ta share any pictures, but since we're hidden back here in the back of the Forum where very few people come to, I figured we'd have a lil fun.

However, I do remember... It was our vacation trip to Canada to visit with eviltoon, right? I just forgot for a moment, because we did so many things on that trip.
:nice:

Ok, here's a new dream.
:full:

The Dream Experts are very confused about what sounds we really hear in our dreams. Some say we don't hear any sounds, only sense sounds from our experiences.

Sounds pretty strange ta me.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Plus, the Dream Experts say that every so often, you will get a great idea while dreaming.
:hero:

Here's a great idea I got while dreamin' one night. I believe it's a solution to a major World Problem.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Speakin' of World Problems... Let me mention World Hunger!
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

There is tis song from the 60's called, Tis The Seaon Of The Witch. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_of_the_Witch )

Donovan composed it, but my favorite version was done by Vanilla Fudge, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_Fudge ) which believe it or not... They're still around.

:bow:

[OldiesLover]

Ok youngsters, here's another Believe It Or Not!
:bingo:

When I was young, there was no easy way to take nude pictures of your babe doing various nude type fun things.

Developing your own film was very difficult, and you couldn't take nude pictures to your local photo shop...

And we couldn't envision at that time such a thing as a personal computer, let alone a digital camera.

However, one day this lil miracle appeared: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_camera
:perfect::perfect::perfect:



return deposit

[oldies8ladies]

Ok youngsters, here's another Believe It Or Not!


OOOOKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

See if we can figure out this dream with the woman and bondage - hum -
****************************
BONDAGE: Restriction, Forceful limitation -

NAKED: Public Display.. Exposed.. Vulnerable.. loss of ambitions.

MAKEUP: Feminine projection. Improved image. How do you want to
be seeing in the outside world.

HANGING: Lack of communication... Change in own environment.
Must control passions.

ROPE: Connecting. Restraint. Looking for more control......

[OldiesLover]

OOOOKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

See if we can figure out this dream with the woman and bondage - hum -
****************************
BONDAGE: Restriction, Forceful limitation -

NAKED: Public Display.. Exposed.. Vulnerable.. loss of ambitions.

MAKEUP: Feminine projection. Improved image. How do you want to
be seeing in the outside world.

HANGING: Lack of communication... Change in own environment.
Must control passions.

ROPE: Connecting. Restraint. Looking for more control......

Again, a very interestin' analysis ladies.

Here's some some Polaroid material, which obviously loses some of its effect when converted to digital. There's nothing like Polaroid hardcopy.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

There is another interesting thing that happens in many dreams... It's a splitting-up of the body into parts. Again, the Dream Experts have no answers as to why this happens, nor why some people have it and some don't.

And no, they have not found any connect to split personalities.
:giveup:

[OldiesLover]

Another common dream effect is quite similar to body splitting. It's called body duplicating...
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Here's a very strange dream... I believe it comes from condom guilt, which comes from not using one when ya know ya should.
:please:

[redeux]

Here's a very strange dream... I believe it comes from condom guilt, which comes from not using one when ya know ya should.
:please:

more bloody likely the result of too many wasabi cornchips and too much stale beer ...:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

more bloody likely the result of too many wasabi cornchips and too much stale beer ...:evillaugh:

redeux, you actually wander inta this Thread?
:cry:

Well, I almost never eat wasabi cornchips and I never drink stale beer. Although, if I did... I'd probably have tis dream:

[redeux]

redeux, you actually wander inta this Thread?
considering theres shitall to view on the board today , i thought i'd wander by here ...
its interesting to view a real-time personality deconstructing ...:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

considering theres shitall to view on the board today , i thought i'd wander by here ...
its interesting to view a real-time personality deconstructing ...:evillaugh:

Ahh... Here's a good deconstructing dream...
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

The Dream Experts do generally agree that fears and other phobias do often work their way into our dreams.

For example, I have a phobia about snakes. I hate the lil fuckers. If one gets within a 100 yards and I know about it... its ass is mine.
:angry::angry::angry:

I don't care about its size, color, disposition or whether its venom is dangerious or not... It's history!
:pissed::pissed::pissed:

[OldiesLover]

Here's a interesting lil dream... or series of dreams.
:whistle:

[oldies8ladies]

Dear Mr OldiesLover;

You are truly once very " strange " person with some of these dreams you have -

They truly are interesting and you would be a very good candidate for going through " dream school " - this would be interesting -

There is a machine now that they can connect to your mind when you sleep at night and it acually in a sense photographs the pictures going through -

that would truly be interesting to see in your mind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you for being YOU (oldieslover).........................

Hugs...................

Tang & the girls -

[OldiesLover]

Dear Mr OldiesLover;

You are truly once very " strange " person with some of these dreams you have -

They truly are interesting and you would be a very good candidate for going through " dream school " - this would be interesting -

There is a machine now that they can connect to your mind when you sleep at night and it acually in a sense photographs the pictures going through -

that would truly be interesting to see in your mind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you for being YOU (oldieslover).........................

Hugs...................

Tang & the girls -

I Thank my Ladies for being so kind. Of course, lots of my dreams are from things I see every day...

[OldiesLover]

Perhaps my dreams wouldn't be so strange if I were able to develop a sense of humor(?).
:distressed:

[OldiesLover]

Yes, the culture around me is a marvel at times...
:nuts:

[OldiesLover]

At the same time, I have many beautiful dreams...
:inlove:

[OldiesLover]

With just an occasional nightmare...
:why:

[OldiesLover]

Here's an interestin' dream image, which tends to come whenever ta lil lady decides to shave, everything.
:please::please::please:

[OldiesLover]

And this lil dream image tends ta come along when we've been havin' lottsa kinky times of late.
:snicker:

[OldiesLover]

And tis lil dream image... Well, I'll let ya guess what we've been doin'
:exhausted:

[OldiesLover]

Yes, this is a very small dream... Let's call it a Quickie Dream...
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

As the Dream Experts say, many times there's people in your dreams who you really don't know... So where do they come from?

Hummmm... very puzzling indeed.
:whisper:

[OldiesLover]

Then there's those from your past that you'd prefer... Stayed there.
:wait::wait::wait:

[OldiesLover]

I do not want ta remember where I saw this stupid son-of-a-bitch...
:frozen:

[OldiesLover]

This one I do remember...
:hero:

[OldiesLover]

And tis one... Well she loves picnics out away from everything, with some wine and...
:blush:

[OldiesLover]

Now here's something I dream about a lot. Yes, sharks. believe it or not... I love sharks. I have often gone scuba diving looking for them. I have often gone to aquariums looking for them. I have never feared them. I find them to be the most beautiful animal in the World.

When I have been diving with sharks around, I feel totally invigorated. I wish I could do it every day of the year. Who knows? Maybe someday... I will.
:perfect:

[OldiesLover]

This my friends, is more dangerious than any mere shark. This my friends can rip your heart right outta your chest and walk away like a spirit in the night.

[OldiesLover]

This is another example of a "Flying Dream," but with a lil liquid too.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

I'll be damned, I'm already up ta my 200th Strange Dream.

I should make each 100th Dream... Sorta Special.

Well, tis lil babe is very special indeed. Her name is Fei-Chun, and she is one fantastic dream...
:love::love::love:

[OldiesLover]

There's one thing that'll give me nightmares every time... and that's breakin' down on the road!
:furious::furious::furious:

[OldiesLover]

This lil Dream Image I call... Shaved Blue.
:full:

[OldiesLover]

This is the start of a very interestin' lil dream. I think I'd start with ta belt!

:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

Ok... This Dream Image is another good Dream Starter...
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Although this ain't her, my Lil Korean Dragon Lady is all the time doin' something like this while I'm trying to sleep.
:giveup:

P.S. Yes, it's an FBWW this Asian babe is with. I have no idea why she would subject herself ta such torture(?).
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Let me let you in on a lil secret, a lil bit of knowledge that took me years to research, and decades to understand. I know this will sound quite strange, but bear with me a moment. Here it is...

Sleep, controls your life.

Yes my friends, if you begin to understand your sleep and your dreaming as a result of your sleep, you will begin to understand your brain, and hence, begin to understand yourself and how you function in everyday reality (or as the case with some of you guys... how you malfunction in every day reality.).
:cry:

[OldiesLover]

Scientists have proven that we bearly perceive 7% of what is around us. However, as we go without sleep, this perception percentage goes up.

If you can fight off the urge to sleep, once you have gone 24 to 36 hours without sleep, you will begin to perceive many things that have always been there, but really never seen. Try going 48 to 72 hours without sleep sometime... and see what you see.

Then, when you do go to sleep, your brain will defragment at lightening speed. Your memory will explode into a collage of perceptions and images.

It is inside this Brain World my friends, where all your understanding resides.

Therefore, to understand yourself and reality around you, you must understand your Sleep & Dream World. It is your Pathway to Self Understanding.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

Yes my friends, all your questions, and all your answers... rest inside your brains. And the only way to reach into your brain and find out what makes you tick, is to get into your sleeping state and hit your ENTER Button.

Just don't hit your DELETE Button by mistake.
:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

So my friends, if you are brave, if you trully wish to understand life as no religion or government can teach you... If you wish to look into your own mirror of the mind... go to sleep...

And then... Open Your Eyes And Look Into Your Mirror.
:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

[oldies8ladies]

It is inside this Brain World my friends, where all your understanding resides.

Therefore, to understand yourself and reality around you, you must understand your Sleep & Dream World. It is your Pathway to Self Understanding.


Well Mr. OldieLover, You truly do have a point here about " pathway to self understanding " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUT

Are you willing to surrender the illusions of the ego and open yourself to experience heaven on earth?

Because there is truly a call for us all is to move beyond the dream of duality and to awaken to the "TRUE" truth that we are all bonded equal in wholeness and love.

For, as soon as there is an awareness within YOURSELF that of wholeness and love, every moment will "TRULY" become sacred within YOUR life and everyone "ELSES" life around you.

Living our lives to the fullest begins with the understanding that we are more than our physical bodies, our thoughts and our emotions.

There is "TRULY" so much more unexplored potential in all of us, just waiting to be tapped. A new opportunity awaits us all to go beyond that so called pain and suffering.

If "YOU" as a person dwells at the superficial layers of existence, with disempowering beliefs, values, prejudices, fears and insecurities, then "YOU" will project this to the world & the result will be a perceived world of fear, suffering & illusion.

YOU and every "ONE" and EACH of YOU so called "Human" beings that even dare to to explore beyond this "TRUE" dream of duality helps the whole of humanity perceive what it is to be fully human.

There are some of YOU that are called to have YOUR own deep desire and commitment to reach beyond the dream & awaken to the truth of who YOU and WE "TRULY" really are.......and this "thoughtform" is truly a " CREATION" of going towards this " Pathway to TOTAL MASTERY " of being HUMAN.......................

Ultimately the awakening or self actualizing process is an individual one and requires the willingness to make a journey in each moment from a concept of LIVING in "FEAR" of your dreams and life to a "thoughtform of Living in " LOVE ".

It is a pathway of higher consciousness which cultivates personal responsibility, self empowerment and self discipline through the development of self awareness and communication with your higher conscious self.

All the elements of YOUR life are "TRULY" designed to produce a positive and lasting results and these "INNER DREAMS" and " THOUGHTS" and " FEELINGS" and LIVING FORMATIONS" are what will provide keys that progressively unlock "YOUR" "TRUE" human, metaphysical and spiritual potential.

YOU have always had within you the true model that is able within "YOUR" dream state and dream world to have those specific skills and ability to do transformative ability to make " TRUE" behavioural change thoughtform techniques that will progressively move "YOU" as a human being closer toward a state of higher conscious expression and self mastery.

Each "TRUE" dream that you take has always provided you with the stepping stones that assist you to connect deeper and more fully with your inner essence so that you can raise your awareness beyond the initial dream. This "thoughtform" which you have will bring you more love, and ' TRUE" abundance and joy into your life.

These "thoughtforms" which you have with your "Dreams" also provide a platform for self healing of the physical and emotional body.

You have this ability to improve your life, embark on a very "enriching & rewarding" spiritual path...... or have been immersed in your 'dreams' in a spirituality and self development "thoughtform" for so many years that you have found yourself in a "stalemate" concept and not able to loosen that "ONE" stone that will help you to "TRULY" experience freedom from the thought structures and patterns that have kept the illusion of suffering and fear alive.

There are many stages to awakening and no one will make this journey for you.

LOVE OR FEAR – THE CHOICE IS YOURS

For those that choose to release the illusions of the ego, there can only be oneness.

You need to truly come forth and share with "EVERYONE" these "PATHWAYS" that you have which lead you into a " TRUE " and " MEANINGFUL" expansion of love, forgiveness, acceptance, conscious creation and personal mastery.

It is your life -

It is your beginning -

It is your " DREAM " and your " THOUGHTFORM" and YOUR " PATHWAY " to beginning -

Join - and OPEN yourself to a truly new world and a new way of seeing - .

[OldiesLover]

Very well put as usual Ladies.

:nice:

[oldies8ladies]

Now here's something I dream about a lot. Yes, sharks. believe it or not... I love sharks.

Well "Oldieslover" has come up with another thought form for us to think and talk about - SHARKS in DREAMS .............................................

When you look at what " JUNG " talked about with dreams and symbols - the symbol of the SHARK or SHARKS comes up with:

Sharks can often symbolise resentments and bad feelings which are building up in our minds. They refer to bad moods and a sense that trouble is about to happen. They can also link to risk in general and emotional doubts and worries.

Some of the key questions to think about when you "dream about sharks" to help you make associations (pick the one question that makes the most sense to you):
- Was there some situation the day before the dream where you really sensed danger?

- What incidents are you currently trying to avoid because they will upset people emotionally?

- Is there a relationship that is causing you trouble right now? Where you cannot seem to talk openly?

- How has trouble been brewing?

***************
Some KEY WORDS :

a) Resentments,
b) Dangerous emotional waters,
c) Hesitant,
d) Sensing danger
(write down some quotes that capture your key feelingson issues that have been dominating your mind. Then see if any of these words could appear in those quotes................................

*******************************
Then there are so called " KEY PHRASES" (Pick a quote which captures your feelings right now. Think especially of the day before you had the dream about the shark) :

- "she was really resentful yesterday"

- "I just sensed danger"

- "I just had some very real doubts about doing that"

- "I knew trouble was brewing"

- "she just would not talk about it"

- "we may get into trouble"

- "I am scared about it"

- "I am hesitant to take on such a challenge"

*****************************************
So there are many aspects to how come a certain object or subject or item comes up in your dreams -

it is something to think about -

Have a wonderful sleep tonight and see if there is anything in your dream tonight - that happened in this day or yesterday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blessings and Hugs -

[HongKongDr]

Dear " OLDIESLOVER " -

I see the girls are writing about your dreams for you..... (hehe).....
but
to tell you the truth here i guess i want to be a part of this also - since all of us study medicine and lately most of us have studied "psychology" and various aspects of this field - "dream therapy or dream analysis " is one of them that we are working on..............................

When you "think" the next morning about the dream that you had last night you are "TRULY" entering into a very " Mysterious & Fascinating " world of dreams where the " RULES" (if you want to say there are rules here) of " REALITY" do not apply at all - these are dreams so there is NOT really a concept of " reality " involved with the dreams..............

Sometimes you want to make sense of your dreams and then you as a person try to achieve a better understanding about what YOUR dreams are doing or saying to YOU....................

There are people out there in this world who are "dedicated" to helping a person find the " KEYS" to unlocking and helping YOU interpreting the meaning of your dreams.

BUT

Realize that these dreams are YOURS and only YOURS - and these dreams are of YOUR mind........... and these dreams here that "OLDIESLOVER" is talking about are truly just " OldiesLover" dreams - and some of them are very very very " interesting "....................to say the least.............

Always realize that YOUR dreams are Unique.......... No other individual can have YOUR brackground, YOUR emotions, or YOUR experiences of life....... and pastlife (as some of you might also believe)...... some of you when you dream might believe that this dream is of a pastlive of YOU when you were here on this planet before - or a Pre dream of what your " next life " might be after you move on from this plane to the next plane.......

Every dream is connected with your own " REALITY " ................. thus in wanting to "interpreting your special dreams, it is very important to draw from your own personal life and experiences that YOU have had and only YOU have had.... not someone else........................

Always remember... that a dream unifies the "TRUENESS" of the Body, Mind, and Spirit........ The deram provides you with insight into ourselves and "TRUE" means for self-exploration.

In understanding and accepting YOUR dreams, YOU (as a person) will have a better understanding and discovery of your own " INNER TRUE SELF ".

So, explore......discover.... have fun.... make friends, and find out what is in your dream and what YOUR dream is and where your dream is......

Blessings -

Sue Li

[redeux]

i still say these 'dreams' come from too many cheetos and too much kirin ...:evillaugh:

[OldiesLover]

Well "Oldieslover" has come up with another thought form for us to think and talk about - SHARKS in DREAMS .............................................

When you look at what " JUNG " talked about with dreams and symbols - the symbol of the SHARK or SHARKS comes up with:

Sharks can often symbolise resentments and bad feelings which are building up in our minds. They refer to bad moods and a sense that trouble is about to happen. They can also link to risk in general and emotional doubts and worries.

Some of the key questions to think about when you "dream about sharks" to help you make associations (pick the one question that makes the most sense to you):
- Was there some situation the day before the dream where you really sensed danger?

- What incidents are you currently trying to avoid because they will upset people emotionally?

- Is there a relationship that is causing you trouble right now? Where you cannot seem to talk openly?

- How has trouble been brewing?

***************
Some KEY WORDS :

a) Resentments,
b) Dangerous emotional waters,
c) Hesitant,
d) Sensing danger
(write down some quotes that capture your key feelingson issues that have been dominating your mind. Then see if any of these words could appear in those quotes................................

*******************************
Then there are so called " KEY PHRASES" (Pick a quote which captures your feelings right now. Think especially of the day before you had the dream about the shark) :

- "she was really resentful yesterday"

- "I just sensed danger"

- "I just had some very real doubts about doing that"

- "I knew trouble was brewing"

- "she just would not talk about it"

- "we may get into trouble"

- "I am scared about it"

- "I am hesitant to take on such a challenge"

*****************************************
So there are many aspects to how come a certain object or subject or item comes up in your dreams -

it is something to think about -

Have a wonderful sleep tonight and see if there is anything in your dream tonight - that happened in this day or yesterday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blessings and Hugs -

Hummm.... Well, to tell ya the truth Ladies, I don't really feel resentments with sharks in my dreams... I feel empowerment. Sharks are powerful animals who live life on their own terms.

Sharks are focused ever-on-the-move machines... who command their environment.

Sharks are loners. They do not school together (Except in one exceptional case with Hammerhead sharks.), yet they can work as a group. However, for the most part, sharks are very individualistic and determined beings.

Although, remember, I was born in The Year Of The Tiger!
:hero:

[OldiesLover]

Dear " OLDIESLOVER " -

I see the girls are writing about your dreams for you..... (hehe).....
but
to tell you the truth here i guess i want to be a part of this also - since all of us study medicine and lately most of us have studied "psychology" and various aspects of this field - "dream therapy or dream analysis " is one of them that we are working on..............................

When you "think" the next morning about the dream that you had last night you are "TRULY" entering into a very " Mysterious & Fascinating " world of dreams where the " RULES" (if you want to say there are rules here) of " REALITY" do not apply at all - these are dreams so there is NOT really a concept of " reality " involved with the dreams..............

Sometimes you want to make sense of your dreams and then you as a person try to achieve a better understanding about what YOUR dreams are doing or saying to YOU....................

There are people out there in this world who are "dedicated" to helping a person find the " KEYS" to unlocking and helping YOU interpreting the meaning of your dreams.

BUT

Realize that these dreams are YOURS and only YOURS - and these dreams are of YOUR mind........... and these dreams here that "OLDIESLOVER" is talking about are truly just " OldiesLover" dreams - and some of them are very very very " interesting "....................to say the least.............

Always realize that YOUR dreams are Unique.......... No other individual can have YOUR brackground, YOUR emotions, or YOUR experiences of life....... and pastlife (as some of you might also believe)...... some of you when you dream might believe that this dream is of a pastlive of YOU when you were here on this planet before - or a Pre dream of what your " next life " might be after you move on from this plane to the next plane.......

Every dream is connected with your own " REALITY " ................. thus in wanting to "interpreting your special dreams, it is very important to draw from your own personal life and experiences that YOU have had and only YOU have had.... not someone else........................

Always remember... that a dream unifies the "TRUENESS" of the Body, Mind, and Spirit........ The deram provides you with insight into ourselves and "TRUE" means for self-exploration.

In understanding and accepting YOUR dreams, YOU (as a person) will have a better understanding and discovery of your own " INNER TRUE SELF ".

So, explore......discover.... have fun.... make friends, and find out what is in your dream and what YOUR dream is and where your dream is......

Blessings -

Sue Li

Yes HongKongDr, you have touched upon a very very important point. Dreams, while suspended into your Sleep State, are extremely individualistic.

After all, no one nor nothing... can control your dreams. No one nor nothing can tell you what, why, when, where or how to dream. No one nor nothing can tell you yes or no, right or wrong... this or that.

Dreams are 100% individualistic, or inotherwords.... Dreams are 100% you. Dreams are perhaps the only single thing in your World... you can say this about.

[OldiesLover]

i still say these 'dreams' come from too many cheetos and too much kirin ...:evillaugh:

Cheetos... No way. I don't ever eat them myself.
:barf:

Kirin ( http://www.kirin.com/beers.htm )... Hummmm.... Maybe!
:love:

[HongKongDr]

i still say these 'dreams' come from too many cheetos and too much kirin ...

Dear Mr. Redeux;

Can you give me the research you have done on this concept that dreams come from tooo many " Cheetos & kirin " -

I know what Kirin is

but

what are " Cheetos " - how can you say that this item "Cheetos" is what makes dreams be what they are ?????????????????????????????

thank you

Sue Li

[redeux]

what are " Cheetos " - how can you say that this item "Cheetos" is what makes dreams be what they are?
a picture explains it better than any words , obviously no sane creature would ingest such a 'food' item willingly ... the ingedients read like test results from a superfund cleanup site...

Cheddar Jalapeno Cheetos® List of Ingredients

Enriched Corn Meal (Corn Meal, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, and

Folic Acid)

Corn and/or Sunflower Oil

Salt

Cheddar Cheese (Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes)

Buttermilk Solids

Whey

Maltodextrin

Romano Cheese from Cow's Milk (Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes)

Monosodium Glutamate

Whey Protein Concentrate

Onion Powder

Sugar

Corn Starch

Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil

Modified Food Starch

Dextrose

Spices

Disodium Phosphate

Jalapeno Chili Pepper

Garlic Powder

Natural and Artificial Flavor

Artificial Color (Including Yellow 6, Yellow 5, Blue 1, Red 40)

Citric Acid

Malic Acid

Lactic Acid

Disodium Inosinate

Disodium Guanylate

Nonfat Milk Solids

[HongKongDr]

a picture explains it better than any words , obviously no sane creature would ingest such a 'food' item willingly ... the ingedients read like test results from a superfund cleanup site...

Cheddar Jalapeno Cheetos® List of Ingredients
Enriched Corn Meal (Corn Meal, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, and Folic Acid), Corn and/or Sunflower Oil, Salt, Cheddar Cheese (Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes), Buttermilk Solids, Whey, Maltodextrin, Romano Cheese from Cow's Milk (Cultured Milk, Salt, Enzymes) Monosodium Glutamate Whey Protein Concentrate Onion Powder Sugar Corn Starch Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil Modified Food Starch Dextrose Spices Disodium Phosphate Jalapeno Chili Pepper
Garlic Powder Natural and Artificial Flavor Artificial Color (Including Yellow 6, Yellow 5, Blue 1, Red 40) Citric Acid Malic Acid Lactic Acid Disodium Inosinate Disodium Guanylate Nonfat Milk Solids

WOW - Mr. REDEUX ---------------------

Why anyone do this to their system???????????????? NO LIKEY - NO NO NO NO NO - ----- majormilo (doccy) says western people do this type of thing from many products - YECKY -

why you do this to your system????????????????????

OH YES, Mr. Oldieslover - sorry about asking different question then "dreams" in your thread - but this is also interesting - Mr. Redeux opened the door on this thought form .................... thank you -

Blessings always

Sue Li -

[OldiesLover]

OH YES, Mr. Oldieslover - sorry about asking different question then "dreams" in your thread - but this is also interesting - Mr. Redeux opened the door on this thought form .................... thank you -Sue Li -

Well, my lil friend and Anti-FBWW comrade redeux... does look at life in his own unique manner.
:evillaugh:


P.S. Now ya see why I don't eat Cheetos and other types of wasted food stuffs.
:barf:

[OldiesLover]

Many people report a type of Dream that can only be called... Empty or better yet... Nothingness.

Yes, many people report dreaming inside a sleep, where they're fast asleep, but more importantly, they know they're asleep. However, nothing is there.

There is nothing to see, feel or sense. Just plain nothing...
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Please understand, this is nothing like the Floating Dream or the Flying Dream.

A Nothing Dream is exactly that... It is Totally, Nothing.

Some people are so shakin' by this nothingness... They actually see the Nothing Dream as an intense nightmare and wake up in emotional duress.

Oddly enough, people who have been revived from being almost dead... also report this so-called nothingness.

However, the Flying Dream is usually considered a delightful Dream. It is rarely considered a nightmare.

[OldiesLover]

Hummm.... I wunder what she hears in her sleep?
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

Those pondering moments...

[OldiesLover]

It is considered beneficial for your dreaming experiences, if you can relax and sorta meditate during the day.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

Then as darkness comes on, your body will develop a sensual feeling.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

Another Nothingness Dream...
:exhausted:

[OldiesLover]

Dancin' In A Dream...
:perfect:

[OldiesLover]

:whisper::whisper::whisper:

[OldiesLover]

Oh, those delightful quiet times when my Lil Korean Dragon Lady and I... wander down ta the Fishin' Pier for some P & Q.
:bye:

[OldiesLover]

Another fairly common dream, although I rarely have such a dream... Is The Statue Dream.

In a Statue Dream, everyone is like stone. Kinda frozen in time.

Another example is in movies where everyone is frozen in time except for one person.

As a matter of fact, the Statue Dream was once thought to be a modern type dream originating because of time travel movies. However, some studies of various ancient Greek and Chinese texts, have found that The Statue Dream goes way back to the our origins.

Now, one of the theories is that The Statue Dream originates in our very old DNA Code from faking out predators by remaining frozen and totally still.

This of course is only one of many possibilities.
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

Inside The Statue Dream, people may or may not look like stone. However, people are typically frozen, often in fairly odd stances, and if you try to get them to move... They won't.
:oy:

[OldiesLover]

Additionaly, the statue entities are often, not human, or not totally human.
:nice:

[OldiesLover]

Another Nothingness Dream...
:exhausted:

As with all types of dreams, each type can mix with other types of dreams. Here again is an example, a Nothingness Dream along with a Statue Dream.
:petrified:

[OldiesLover]

:love::love::love:

[OldiesLover]

Another strange oddity about dreams is the interactions between people inside dreams.

[OldiesLover]

In some cases, people cannot react emotionally inside their dreams whatsoever, almost like their emotions are bound together, unable to escape...
:evil:

[OldiesLover]

Some Dream Experts claim that dreams are abstract observations, where very little can be clearly visualized. Again, like the collage I mentioned earlier.
:bingo:

[OldiesLover]

All this being said, i rarely have abstract dreams. Most of my dreams are quite clear and visually detailed. however, there is often one or two things that don't quite equal reality.
:whistle:

[OldiesLover]

I love it when my lil Korean Dragon Lady wears one of her hats.
:beautiful: