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INever

04-29-2006, 06:52 AM

Have you seen the video with Sakura and her mom??

EDIT - moved from EE...if you want to discuss this hot lady please do so in this thread - Mirrorman

godzira

04-29-2006, 04:47 PM

yeah, it's very perverted... and sakura's not too pleased during most of it.
i also found the cover for a scat movie she did...
gross.
i'll never understand the appeal of this.

INever

04-29-2006, 09:17 PM

I thought the last scene in the movie with Sakura and her mom was one of the hottest things I'd ever seen. :bounce:

godzira

04-30-2006, 12:36 AM

It's definitely got some hotness... and a little weirdness.
But we get to see a side of her that's quite different from her other movies.
It seems a lot more real and raw for sure.

there is another movie they did together, i wish we could see it ...what a couple of pervy chicks! Here's the cover :beer:

also, here's a film where sakura gets into it with a some shemales. I'd love to see this one too.
anyone out there have either of these?

She's the best jav star IMO :nod:

INever

04-30-2006, 06:34 AM

Shemales freak me out.

StacyAnn

05-04-2006, 02:20 AM

I dont know if Sakura is brave or just weird, but she is definatly lovely. I am envios. A nice tread, hope to see more of this lady.

Levmag

05-04-2006, 11:32 PM

Stolen link from Softcore Sanctuary - the full set on six pages :amazed:

http://answer.liveadulthost.com/index.htm

WOW bigsteviemitchell :thumbsup:

Really appreciate that link. That must be the MOST images I've ever seen from ONE photo session... what a stash.

Hope you can savour the Sakura vid I have posted today via Megaupload in the HiQ Pure Clips thread under Downloadable Goodies...

http://forum.scanlover.com/viewtopic.php?p=181382#181382

Tame by Ms Sakura standards, but very QT-sexy style and virtually uncensored.

CHEERS

godzira

05-13-2006, 06:40 AM

Look what she did!!!! :amazed:
Why would such a famous AV star get so nasty?
Can anyone in Japan enlighten us?

godzira

05-16-2006, 02:40 AM

ryuuga

05-16-2006, 02:42 AM

Oh what!? Sakura Sakurada doing beast sex.....!!!!! :shock:

Oh my...she was one of my favourite uncensored AV stars. I really didn't expect that she will do this. I am shocked. :sweatlaugh:

yupyupyup

05-16-2006, 03:00 AM

Sex with animal for money is the lowest type of job... Saying enjoy watching shit like this is way sick!

INever

05-16-2006, 03:43 AM

I thought it was freaky when she and her mother were sucking and fucking in the same bed (and Sakura was licking and sucking her mom while they were both fucking), but this is even freakier.

GenesisOne

05-16-2006, 04:04 AM

I posted this in the EE section, but nobody commented so I thought I'd move it here.
Maybe the reason why was because you posted it in the wrong section previously ... :roll:

godzira

05-16-2006, 05:29 AM

Maybe the reason why was because you posted it in the wrong section previously ...

Not the kind of comment I was looking for.... :grinno:

GenesisOne

05-16-2006, 05:32 AM

Maybe the reason why was because you posted it in the wrong section previously ...

Not the kind of comment I was looking for.... :grinno:
Makes sense though ... :sweatlaugh:

skorpion

05-16-2006, 01:09 PM

she goes too far......

eviltoon

05-17-2006, 02:25 AM

Oh what!? Sakura Sakurada doing beast sex.....!!!!! :shock:

Oh my...she was one of my favourite uncensored AV stars. I really didn't expect that she will do this. I am shocked. :sweatlaugh:

I too am disappointed, really disappointed. She's beautiful and I always liked the way she was so uninhibited. But not this uninhibited!!! This ain't the doggy style I like. NOPE. Honestly I don't know what she is up to...is she really so disconnected? :fishslap:

I checked out the internet just to verify that this wasn't a misrepresented cover, but sure enough it's genre is "animal".

OldiesLover

05-17-2006, 02:39 AM

I wonder if the dog's name is... White Trashy? :sweatlaugh:

insert_namehere

05-17-2006, 11:52 AM

Sure.... blame the dog.

Jhonner

05-18-2006, 12:59 AM

half of these videos, the dogs are basically tied down.. There is no real "sex" involved.. It's not even called beastiality... Look at the picture in the cover, the dog has its leech on and it's being held. Thus, he isn't really free to do anything... the actors simply stick it in and... well there you go, "animal" sex. Boring.

Edited by Zatoichi
Your post has been edited for rudeness and general asshat-ery.

And since you never even bothered to open my last PM to you, I'll make this warning here - your posts will be closely monitored from this point forward until you've either demonstrated that you can contribute to a thread without being an overly negative ass or you're banned. The ball's in your court now.

godzira

05-19-2006, 02:41 AM

I'm trying to understand why an established star would do something that is generally regarded as under the counter, amateur, black market fare.

Maybe she's trying to destroy her career.

Strange.

Similarly, I found another fairly high profile actress that has gotten surprisingly nasty, Izumi Hasegawa.

Check it...(scat warning)

Izumi cover:
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc283&image=06753_opud007pl4si.jpg

ryuuga

05-19-2006, 02:51 AM

godzira, as my opinion, sorry that I have to say that Izumi Hasegawa's cover is extremely disgusting. :sweatlaugh: Anyway, thanks for the info. That cover has completely changed my perception to Izumi. :sweatlaugh:

In case some members will feel uncomfortable when looking at it (seeing the thumbnail or the full picture), I deleted your attachment, and reupload the cover into a image uploading site link. So the decision is up to the forumers.

If any forumers really want to see that Izumi cover, then click that imagevenue link.

PS: For the members who don't want to see the cover, but curious about it, then let me reveal the truth. That cover is showing Izumi was eating and playing with....you know....the thing you release everyday after digesting the food. :sweatlaugh:

yupyupyup

05-19-2006, 04:52 PM

Hollyshit! I viewed that pic, and damn, that's fuckin' disgusting. Eating crap is the shittiest fetist, even Ozzy Orsbourne has to vomit! :)

Denz

05-19-2006, 08:44 PM

I thought it was freaky when she and her mother were sucking and fucking in the same bed (and Sakura was licking and sucking her mom while they were both fucking), but this is even freakier.

Sick people on this earth... :amazed:

khunglongcon

05-21-2006, 08:25 AM

**shakes head** Is that the power of money, or they are just having mental problems?

japanlove

05-21-2006, 08:29 AM

Damn she got weird, but very interesting to see though! does anyone have the torrent to that Sakura vid?

basnobasno

05-22-2006, 12:18 AM

yeah, just saw that today. at first i couldnt believe it. i had to cross reference that cover with a close up of her face i was so shocked. :shock:

maybe once you are in the industry for a period of time things that once seemed out of bounds dont seem as out of the question anymore. maybe she got curious. maybe she's had so much sex that at this point it has no meaning to her. it has no connection to love or intimacy as it does for some many of us.

but clearly if she is doing porn with her own mother she is operating under a different set of morals as the rest of us. or doing porn at all for that matter.

certainly an unexpected turn of events. what i am waiting for is the mother-daughter beastiality movie. :jk:

p.s. there is also a vid of her doing some piss movies at asianscreens.com

xaltair

05-22-2006, 01:52 AM

That dog looks pretty friendly though, and like someone already said, that's one lucky dog.

Don't know who'd still want to do her once she had a dog in her, that's pretty low morals and everything, i've seen worse though, at least she's not doing a horse, yet. :amazed:

godzira

05-22-2006, 02:35 AM

Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone.

I think Sakura exists in this weird mainstream/underground limbo.
It's just the impression I get from checking out her filmography.

this site has a pretty comprehensive list:

http://www.at-mania.com/actseek.php?pr=%BA%F9%C5%C4%A4%B5%A4%AF%A4%E9

Has anyone ever found an interview of hers? I've never come across one in my net travels.

Although I do not speak Japanese, I get the impression from watching her that she can be articulate and intelligent and funny.

(can any Japanese speakers add their thoughts on this?)

I have to say that I'm still a fan, freakiness aside.

manacaca

05-24-2006, 10:05 PM

Shit and animal... That's just so sick. I'll never watch it even if someone pay me to :nono:

Rowser

05-25-2006, 08:02 AM

Mother, dog, poo-poo...

It could (probably, hopefully) be fake. Is it fake? :nono:

drilla19

05-25-2006, 08:10 AM

hmm....i wish i didn't see this thread, but erf...ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

hmm Izumi is sooo cute, why would she eat shit, she needs to gain weight....chocolate is good enough why the poop..and that Sakura Sakurada thing is just .....no comment.

my EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OldiesLover

05-25-2006, 02:23 PM

I was really hoping that Japanese Babes, or Asian Babes in general, wouldn't get into this Shit... No pun intended! :oops: :oops: :oops:

I think our Asian Babes are coming under too much Western Influence. :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:

I can only hope this is Temporary Insanity. :nono: :nono: :nono:

happyfish

05-25-2006, 04:22 PM

Yeah, this definitely goes over the line. I always thought(and still do) think she is extremely pretty, but after that vid where she was having sex with her mom, I really can't see her the same way again. Just I feel sad when I see her face now, because there has got to be some psychological issues going on there. I know there are a number of girls who get into porn because the like the money, or the sex, but there are also an equal number who get into it because of some trauma they have experienced in the past. It's tough to enjoy watching these girls, if you know this kind of thing.

RoJoRolo

05-27-2006, 03:28 AM

Personally, I think the mother thing is kinda hot, but the dog and the shit is really just nasty stuff. It's a shame folks are going for that nowadays.

Eraldo

05-27-2006, 07:51 AM

Mother, dog, poo-poo...

It could (probably, hopefully) be fake. Is it fake? :nono:

Some other slightly unconventional stuff for her would be that movie where Sakura does an old geezer... and another one, of which I have only heard rumors about, her with transvestites. [Need info on that last one]

ryuuga

05-27-2006, 06:40 PM

Since there are few nasty stuff other than Sakura Sakura are posted in here...

Changed the topic to "Super Nasty AV!!! (be warned)"

mike2323

05-28-2006, 12:28 AM

I remember watching a guy have sex with a sheep once and I thought that was kinda uncomfortable to watch but the photos of that girl eating her own defecation was way too much... :amazed: :amazed: :amazed: triple shocker!!!
I almost hurled looking at it...in regards to the model this topic is refering to I have had guys talked about it(Beastality) so being tender the subject may be I guess it's a fetish I wouldnt get myself into watching... yeah I've seen a video once a long time ago where animals had sex with people co'z my friend was curious to see what it looked like but this was shot in europe...I have yet to see one done in the US or asia for that matter or maybe I am not looking hard enough? hummm? guess not my cup of tea...

bbenson67

05-30-2006, 11:58 PM

First of all, we need some links to these movies. Secondly, these girls are porn stars and they have a different standard of behavior than the average girl. I don't care how liberal or brave you are could you get naked and have sex in front of the whole world? I don't think so. Thank god for us, these girls exist for our pleasure and entertainment but they hear the beat of a different drummer. Let's be careful not to romanticize them. They are what they are.

Alistare

06-04-2006, 05:35 AM

That is rather nasty, but I've seen worse. I bet that made the dogs day though!!! :spank: :lol:

It definately gives new meaning to the phrase, "Give a dog a bone." :queerlook: :beer:

paddesan

06-05-2006, 04:46 AM

Meaningless "porn". :queerlook:
normal soft porn ftw :beer:

piggy2004

06-07-2006, 09:32 AM

This is extremely disgusting......arghhhh....please don't post it....

sithlordmark

06-09-2006, 09:36 AM

My Oh My, I nearly threw up after seeing that Izumi cover :shock: :shock: :shock: Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!

Man what is this with Sakura with her Mom and now a DOG :shock: :shock: :shock: I have been away for awhile, but did I wake up in the same world ! :shock: :shock: Man she was my favorite uncensored actress, but why would she do this ? :amazed: :shock: Man her screw must be loose :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:

bernkly

06-22-2006, 11:41 AM

Doggie sex sure is yuk. :eek:

But i wonder if i can get the torrents. :p

nanuk

06-23-2006, 07:22 PM

Scat, incest, bestiality. Is there anything Sakura hasn't done? This is one nasty lady! The fact that she's a babe only make things more interesting. Great posts guys!

sub3000

06-27-2006, 09:14 AM

But but she feels good too. :)

The question is: "Will anybody marry her after seeing this?"

Katana

06-27-2006, 09:15 AM

I guess you can teach an "old dog new tricks"! :queerlook: :sweatlaugh: Seriously though, that is just shameless!! :spank:

Raq

06-27-2006, 09:26 AM

OH god.. I think every movie linked here should be in that thread I started..

that scat eating one is just plain wrong though.. omfg I still feel like hurling.. did I mention I ate dinner about 40mins ago?

oh god....
oh god...

The negatives of sexual liberation...

And as for that comment on who's going to marry her... Sakura doesn't seem like the kind of girl thats looking to get married... between having sex with tonnes of girls, family, shemales, old people and animals.. I dont think she has the time or desire to commit to a man... and thats if she wants to settle with a man XDXD

And that scat eating chick..

oh god...

happy thoughts.. happy thoughts.. happ- *hurls*

ad9fa1f8

06-27-2006, 12:33 PM

I can't believe that such a famous and beautiful JAV star like Sakura

Sakurada even do this with a dog. I'm very dissappointed.:eek::mad::eek::mad::eek::mad::eek::mad:

I saw a picture of her in a kimono before and she was beautiful and

kawaii (pretty). :kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii::kawaii:

I wonder what is wrong with her that make her this, or was she was forced to do this.

Any fans of her or anyone that knows please tell me.

Ogben

06-29-2006, 09:55 PM

scanfiend

06-30-2006, 01:16 AM

Hm well after doing a bit of research it seems like Bestiality is getting more and more mainstream in Japan. I personally don't watch it, but I find heaps of other porn more disturbing.

In my 30 min something search I must have found close to 100 movies, and to my surprise with a LOT of very good looking girls... Weird...

Heres a few more actresses that have done beastiality (albeit none as famous as Ms. Sakurada);

First one is Rinako Hirasawa and second is Maya Tsubaki All I can say, Ogben, the gals in the 2 covers you posted (and Ms Sakurada, of course) look a damned sight better than some of the girls in the beastiality vids I've seen :p

Ogben

06-30-2006, 03:54 AM

All I can say, Ogben, the gals in the 2 covers you posted (and Ms Sakurada, of course) look a damned sight better than some of the girls in the beastiality vids I've seen :p

Hmmm, which others have you seen then? Because most of the japanese girls looked really hot, not all of course, but damn many.

Seen a few european clips in my past though, and those are not too pleasant looking;)

eviltoon

06-30-2006, 06:10 AM

Hm well after doing a bit of research it seems like Bestiality is getting more and more mainstream in Japan. I personally don't watch it, but I find heaps of other porn more disturbing.

In my 30 min something search I must have found close to 100 movies, and to my surprise with a LOT of very good looking girls... Weird...

Heres a few more actresses that have done beastiality (albeit none as famous as Ms. Sakurada);

First one is Rinako Hirasawa and second is Maya Tsubaki

Getting more mainstream in Japan eh? I believe it...Those Japanese are on the crest of a new wave...WATCH OUT!...when your girlfriend insists on a new fido...man it's time to move out! :) ...go, go, go and don't look back

Raq

06-30-2006, 04:02 PM

From what I can see from these screenshots, the dogs are somehow using a dildo on the girls.. that I think I can live with (not find sexually arousing but atleast not *completely* revolting)...

unless I'm wrong and theres actual penetration by the dogs in which case wtfeww

DarknessFX

06-30-2006, 05:58 PM

This gorgeous girls doing such nasty stuff, its so wrong, so f**** wrong...... :eek:

Where could we find these torrents? :oops: :lol:

Ogben

06-30-2006, 08:55 PM

This gorgeous girls doing such nasty stuff, its so wrong, so f**** wrong...... :eek:

Where could we find these torrents? :oops: :lol:

Don't think you'll find much of it around, can't imagine it's very popular. But I found some trailers at hxxp://www.av-karma.com/works/genre/genre_jyukan.html

View at own discression.

vuonghyphuong

06-30-2006, 09:11 PM

the dogs seem famous (they are the same dogs 1 black 1 white) ... hic maybe on day we will the the name of the dog instead of Kawaii-chan Matsugada
________
Talk about change, I Saw some Anal stuff in JP AV recently . . . dareing

scanfiend

07-01-2006, 06:06 AM

Don't think you'll find much of it around, can't imagine it's very popular. But I found some trailers at hxxp://www.av-karma.com/works/genre/genre_jyukan.html

View at own discression.

You know, after looking at some of the trailers (thanks for posting the link, btw), some of the scenes were obviously faked. Sure, there's a dog in there, but the, uhm, "phalluses" don't look like any dog's I've seen. Why is there a need for a guy's hand to "push" the dog's dick backwards? :sweatlaugh:

But then, I'm sure that you can only tell for sure if you watch the movie in it's entirety ;)

Asian4Mo

07-01-2006, 08:16 AM

Lucky dog!!! How could they make that lucky dog comes???

Hockeyfan

07-01-2006, 11:14 AM

twelve_monkeys

07-10-2006, 06:07 PM

Well, well, well, Sakura........but an even bigger surprise to me that Aya Fujii, one of my favourites, did it too.

malau

07-10-2006, 11:19 PM

Blimey ! That's the same dog on all three video covers !
He must be some kind of Doggie Ron Jeremy ! :)
Does he have an agent ?

I saw a 3 minute clip of the aforementioned Sakura video (not knowing until reading that it was Sakura) and the funny thing was that the dog had a man specially to grip his penis at the base to keep it hard (!!!!) I agree with the guy who said it looked like a dildo - hence that's why the guy's hand was there to disguise the fact.

But if it is not a dildo then:-

1 - What a crap job ! (does he do 'fluffing' for the dog too ?)

2 - An insult to Ms Sakura that she can't even give a dog 'wood'.

The dog wasn't moving at all, it looked totally bored and disinterested, and Sakura was having to do all the moving. We've all seen dog's shagging in the park and they go at it like they've got uber Parkinson's in their butt !
So again, makes me think it is not real dog sex.

Even when she sucks the 'dick', the 'fluffer' is still gripping it.

Oh, it must be fake, but the shame we feel for her isn't.

scanfiend

07-11-2006, 01:22 AM

After looking at several of the trailer clips, I am almost certain that it's all pretend - sorta like fantasy roleplay :D After all, it's all mosaic-ed, so you can't see crap. In fact, it kinda reminds me of some western porn like "King Dong" - ya know, the guy with the 18" dick, and the one which has this guy supposedly cums literally gallons (sorta like 'ol faithful) :lol: All obviously faked with dildos, though with a bad bootleg VCD you can be fooled - sorta :D

godzira

07-11-2006, 02:47 AM

where did you see the sakura video preview/ trailers?

can you give us the link?

thx

sithlordmark

07-11-2006, 08:17 AM

even if it is just pretend, it is still sick :nono: no matter what :eek: :eek: :confused: :confused: I just don't get this vibe at all ?:confused: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ogben

07-13-2006, 12:58 PM

I hate to say this, but it's most deff not fake. I've seen one of the GloryQuest movies ( http://www.gloryquest.co.jp/pc/rist/rist.cgi?janl=%8Fb%8A%AD )... From the looks of it the man isn't holding the penis for it to stay hard, but to get it out behind the dog for easier access.. hehe... what a mad world:)

Anyways, all I can say when seeing how much of this kind of porn there is in Japan is that it has to be somewhat "mainstream" compared to western standards. Also I seriously think it might be because a dogs penis doesn't have to be cencored or something... But bottom line is; I hate to dissappoint some of you, but it's not fake at all....

david3558

07-13-2006, 01:40 PM

Thats pretty damn sick...still can't imagine why a beautiful girl like her would do that.

godzira

07-13-2006, 11:01 PM

glad this thread is generating some discussion

and I hope somebody will post sakura's movie if they have it!

basnobasno

07-14-2006, 07:25 AM

I see your beastiality and raise you.

Ogben

07-14-2006, 08:31 AM

I see your beastiality and raise you.

Ah ew yeeeeeeew... I concider myself quite tolerant when it comes to porn, but two things I just can NOT watch is pregnant girls doing anything less loving than a dildo and/or girls eating scat etc... And these Japanese people seem to do both quite frequently....

bbenson67

07-29-2006, 04:45 AM

Doggie porn yes. Feces porn no. Even with a famous JAV actress I don't really want to see feces porn.

bbenson67

07-29-2006, 04:58 AM

This woman pushes the envelope. I would love to see her doggie movie.

ivanpei

07-29-2006, 05:03 AM

I don't know why people bother, is it really a turn on? :P It makes me sick... I wonder if there is a large market for this stuff. It takes alot of cash to make an AV idol do this kinda things. They have to sell alot to cover her fees.

boyboy69

07-29-2006, 01:47 PM

looks like creativity in japan is a really great myriad

ne0_maul

07-30-2006, 04:45 PM

thats just scary but i wonder how animals have sex with humans???

stjlx

07-30-2006, 05:20 PM

i don't know, but from looking at the covers of this stuff
they don't censor out the dog's genitalia
but they still censor the female's
that's besides the disturbing factor

ONIKAGE

07-30-2006, 06:57 PM

seen all the gloryquest flicks n tho some r quite boring i can tell u thsi shit aint fake;
personally im always on a hunt for asian bestiality videos,i think i seen pretty much everythin but im always glad 2 see the japs can come up with somethin new,like sea cucumbers,octopuses,eels,frogs,goldfishes n ofcourse dogs,horses n stuff like tht.
ogben is perfectly right,the strong point of bestaility videos in japan is tht animals genitalia r not subject 2 censorship...downside is,the dogs r not as active like in german or other movies,they dont mount the girls spontaneously,instead they always need 2 b "guided" which makes it pretty fake,in the sense tht the action si not natural as u would like it 2 b 4 a porn movie,but heck when u see a cute japanese girls doin this stuff,u really dont want 2 compare a j beast porn with a german one,where all the girls r all just ugly skanks,haha!
however,karma's juukan series seems 2 b the best ever,much more than glory quest,at least under the "plot" profile. LOL
hvnt seen sakuras dog game yet,but 4 ur info,theres already a second chapter,this time starred by another popular uncensored actress,aya fuji.
im really curious 2 see thsi video bcoz,by the looks of it,its goin 2 ba totally uncensored 1;
anyways,im hunting down this torrent n 4 all the pervs interested,i will post it on javtalk,as soon as i may find it.
im not disturbed,i just enjoy nasty porn,haha!

PEACE

sippyb

07-30-2006, 07:01 PM

i really Liked Izumi Hasegawa and Aya Fuji..

Changed my perception of these preety girls... eeewww

they were really cute girls.. why they did it????

sippyb

07-30-2006, 07:46 PM

i think some of her stuff is grosss....

MeiHua

07-30-2006, 11:05 PM

well, bro ONIKAGE....i m all e way behind u too as i m personally hunting for this av torrent myself. btw, if u do find it.... can u inform thru the thread here? but i dunno hw to access the javtalk section tt u mention u will be posting :jk:

Ogben

07-31-2006, 08:21 PM

Look what I stumbled upon. Many japanese long (12 minute) trailers, and among them The Dog Game 2 and one of the AV-KARMA movies... Just scroll down and you'll find them. Tons of other good stuff here too....

http://www.hdouga.com/top.html

xeno

07-31-2006, 09:27 PM

ONIKAGE

07-31-2006, 11:02 PM

man,karma's juukan series is priceless...just go to the bestiality page n click on the cover thumbs 2 get clips links in a new page:

http://www.av-karma.com/works/genre/genre_jyukan.html

its a real pity those r not sold on jlist or asianscreens as well,ahah!

anyways,i dont think the girls who perform bestiality r threatened 2 death,even some might b a lil pushed,always keep in ur mind they get good money n tht in japan theres less stigma bout sexual perversions;

also,why not accepting the possibility tht some girls might like or dont mind nasty sexual practices?!
ok,some might not b really keen into it,but hv a look at key sugiyama in beast fuck,n u'll see how she gets off 2 her hot dog,MWHAHAH!

also,call me a bastard,but i find funny 2 see how low ppl can get,4 a bunch of $...humans r so entertaining,KYAHAHA!

PEACE

Ogben

07-31-2006, 11:02 PM

You guys do know that some of these "AV Stars" are forced to do this right. It's not their decision. Some Of these men Threaten these women, make them scared.They will say such thing as we will kill your family if you dont do such and such.Trust me i know.

I highly doubt that such things happen when it comes to big companies like gloryquest etc. Altho I have to say that though the thought has crossed my mind, I now think that if such was the case it has to be in the more "underground" circles of japanese porn. But then again I don't know much, it just seems like that is a little over the top...

chfyfx

08-01-2006, 03:38 AM

It is NOT real doggie thing though... I think she has some good ones, yet she does not seem to be very popular

-archangel-

08-01-2006, 04:54 AM

i watched animal sex before last time (including inserting snakes etc.)

just felt damn disgusted watching them to that

protagonist

08-01-2006, 11:41 PM

that is just so fcking disgusting and disturbing it makes me want to barf. Same goes to that scat movie.

onslaught135

08-02-2006, 01:33 PM

feces is digusting, especially when its loaded with bacteria, fungus, etc. yech.
i think its a marketing scheme to reach certain limits. since this actress has reached that limit, its more of a temporary shocker to get more people to watch her. sounds weird, but that's how it is (like an amusement park).

UNFORGIVENPAST

08-02-2006, 08:48 PM

How much more does an AV actress get for doing bestiality, scat, etc?

sovo1_4fun

08-03-2006, 06:14 AM

this japanese creativity is getting wierder and wierder by the minute...too bad Sakura and other well known av idol is in this kind of sickening vid...

feralman

08-03-2006, 08:13 PM

A few people actually comment on the porn, but all the shrieks of disgust are just plain hysterical! They remind me of that old tale of the woman who rescues a sick snake, nurses it to health, is good to it, etc., then when it bites her, says, "Why, oh, why did you bite me after I've been so good to you?" To which the snake replies, "Cuz I'm a snake."

So. I don't like it, maybe, but, well . . . it's PORN!

And surely someone out there agrees with me that putting the regular AV mosaic on dog-porn is equally hilarious.

bbenson67

08-03-2006, 09:44 PM

scanfiend

08-04-2006, 02:03 AM

Have you noticed that in USA porn there is a big emphasis on what they call A2M or ass to mouth. Basically, the guy pulls out of the girls ass and sticks it directly into her mouth without wiping or cleaning it off first. The implication being that these girls are so slutty that they will even taste their own s**t. There are even threads in USA porn forums on finding "dirty A2M" scenes. This means that there is obvious evidence of fecal material on the guys penis before it goes in her mouth. Not my cup of tea. I think that US porn is a little late to the A2M genre. The earliest I ever saw of it was in European porn. You thought the Japanese invented bukkake? Hell, have you ever seen those German GGG videos? Unfreakingly unbelievable. The gals in Japanese porn are a lot cuter, I must admit, but the German stuff is uncensored :)

stjlx

08-04-2006, 03:08 AM

i always thought when i saw like a threesome or something, the a2m was done after they got an enema or something so that fecal matter wasn't present
errrr
that's nasty

scanfiend

08-04-2006, 04:22 PM

i always thought when i saw like a threesome or something, the a2m was done after they got an enema or something so that fecal matter wasn't present
errrr
that's nasty

Indeed, but those kind of "preparations" are always found in the DVD "extras" portion of the movie - you know, behind the scenes kind of thing. Occasionally, "accidents" happen when they do anal. I remember one scene with Allura Eden....nasty :) It was edited out from the video, of course.

The Japanese are unique in that they do show the enemas being shown as part of the preparation for anal sex in the movie itself. Hmmm, some kinda of weird fetish perhaps?

feralman

08-04-2006, 05:23 PM

Indeed, but those kind of "preparations" are always found in the DVD "extras" portion of the movie - you know, behind the scenes kind of thing. Occasionally, "accidents" happen when they do anal. I remember one scene with Allura Eden....nasty :) It was edited out from the video, of course.

The Japanese are unique in that they do show the enemas being shown as part of the preparation for anal sex in the movie itself. Hmmm, some kinda of weird fetish perhaps?
Enemas are definitely a fetish in Japan, which has as many 'niche' fetishes as you can possibly imagine. Look at some of their hentai if you want to see the full range of their sexual fantasies. Personally, I think it comes from being a historically sexually-repressed society - no great surprise that once the wraps come off, we see all kinds of 'perversion.' It seems mostly harmless, though.

As for the women in, e.g., the dog porn, I don't see them being overtly coerced into it, as an earlier poster claimed. They may be kinky and twisted, but their performances seem genuine (the dogs don't seem to like it, though).

As for the men in Japanese porn, they aren't what we might consider good 'performers' - I have yet to see any Asian who comes close to Peter North's money shots or the size of dozens of US porn players - but they also seem to treat the women with a lot more 'respect' than the US porn players do. Maybe they're just polite misogynists, as opposed to the crude misogynists in a lot of US porn. What's interesting, though, is that in those 'behind-the-scenes' videos, you see the male and female players acting very normally to each other, like buddies (which I suppose they are). The ugly sexist shit seems to be reserved for the cameras. Go figure.

scanfiend

08-04-2006, 07:36 PM

Enemas are definitely a fetish in Japan, which has as many 'niche' fetishes as you can possibly imagine. Look at some of their hentai if you want to see the full range of their sexual fantasies. Personally, I think it comes from being a historically sexually-repressed society - no great surprise that once the wraps come off, we see all kinds of 'perversion.' It seems mostly harmless, though.

As for the women in, e.g., the dog porn, I don't see them being overtly coerced into it, as an earlier poster claimed. They may be kinky and twisted, but their performances seem genuine (the dogs don't seem to like it, though).

As for the men in Japanese porn, they aren't what we might consider good 'performers' - I have yet to see any Asian who comes close to Peter North's money shots or the size of dozens of US porn players - but they also seem to treat the women with a lot more 'respect' than the US porn players do. Maybe they're just polite misogynists, as opposed to the crude misogynists in a lot of US porn. What's interesting, though, is that in those 'behind-the-scenes' videos, you see the male and female players acting very normally to each other, like buddies (which I suppose they are). The ugly sexist shit seems to be reserved for the cameras. Go figure.
There are a few "professional" male actors in JAV - i.e. they look decent, the camera actually showed their faces, and they appear regularly in various movies.

For the "rest", I have a sneaky suspicion that they are just regular joes either picked off the street, or recruited via adverts :confused:? Why do I say this? Because the cameras don't EVER show their faces (or they wear some kind of mask), and some of them look criminally out of shape, beer gut and all - not the kind I would associate with a porn movie - ever. And yeah, some of them have incredibly tiny dicks :lol:

Respectful towards the actresses? I bet they are! If you just regular Joe Blow, and you're picked to bang a beautiful woman, you must have thought they died and gone to heaven! Hell, that's probably the hottest tail they're ever likely gonna get in their lifetime. If I'm in their shoes, I sure as hell would more than respectful :)

And do you notice something? Most of them anonymous guys produce fairly respectable amount of cum in the "money" shots....certainly more than the dribble some of the professional actors produce. Which implies that they probably don't get laid very often :cool:

wemic

08-05-2006, 02:39 PM

that is just so fcking disgusting and disturbing it makes me want to barf. Same goes to that scat movie.

Agreed. Imagine after she retires. Who wants someone who has been THAT nasty. Would make my skin crawl.

sunzi

08-07-2006, 11:40 AM

jdix

08-07-2006, 04:31 PM

Does anyone know if beastilaty is legal in japan???
I find it funny , that so many members make moral judgement on it and the girls themselves. considering that we all watch normal porn which other people will say is sick. and how could the girls do it and how we could watch it.
(for the record the only porn that I object to a 1)child porn & 2)where woman a forced to do it)

tsk, tsk, tsk.. 2x-standards..wad can i sae? since she made an vid out of beastiality, i guess it's legal huh (*or those lawmakers 4got to write tt down cuz they didn't think gals would be that... "inquisitive" n "adventurous" ya? XD)
yep; a sad fact of life. some of us find wad others do inmoral, but 4got to look at ourselves 1st prior to judging others.

eviltoon

08-07-2006, 05:27 PM

I think that US porn is a little late to the A2M genre. The earliest I ever saw of it was in European porn. You thought the Japanese invented bukkake? Hell, have you ever seen those German GGG videos? Unfreakingly unbelievable. The gals in Japanese porn are a lot cuter, I must admit, but the German stuff is uncensored :)

I actually have a GGG film with a very attractive asian girl doing all kinds of nasty stuff (man it's intense). I'm toying with the idea of putting it up in Downloadable Goodies / VIP soon...will run it by the copyright checkers first though.

scanfiend

08-08-2006, 01:40 AM

I actually have a GGG film with a very attractive asian girl doing all kinds of nasty stuff (man it's intense). I'm toying with the idea of putting it up in Downloadable Goodies / VIP soon...will run it by the copyright checkers first though. Yeah, Japanese bukkake movies are almost tame compared to the GGG movies. In the Japanese ones, the guys are almost gentle, and treat the actresses with kid gloves (exception being the theme movies like "M-Slave", "Bondage" et. al). The European ones are almost rough. Hope it clears with the mods, though. I would like to see it :)

sunzi

08-10-2006, 11:33 AM

no one has answer me . is sex with animals legal in japan. all because it is produced it does not mean it is legal " jdix".
If it is legal then it is not as big a deal in that context.

ryuuga

08-11-2006, 07:02 AM

Unbelieveble!!:eek:

I am sure you guys still remember the video "Dream Gakuen 10", the entry-12 in AV Open competition.

http://forum.scanlover.com/showthread.php?t=3227

Well, in September, Moodyz actually will release the complete full version (6 hours), by adding a lot of nasty stuff!:eek:

According to the description on the full version cover (attached at below), those nasty stuff are including:

1. 3P Bestiality (Dog sex)
2. Extremely a lot of nakashida
3. Scat (playing shit)
4. SM
5. Pee playing
6. Group sex

....and more.

Btw, just to let you know...NAO., Akane Hotaru and some popular av girls are taking part in this video. Oh man....what happen to this business..all my favourites are going to do those nasty stuff..:sweatlaugh: :(

eviltoon

08-11-2006, 07:10 AM

Unbelieveble!!:eek:

I am sure you guys still remember the video "Dream Gakuen 10", the entry-12 in AV Open competition.

Well, Moodyz actually will release the complete full version (6 hours), by adding a lot of nasty stuff!:eek:

According to the description on the full version cover (attached at below), those nasty stuff are including:

1. 3P Bestiality (Dog sex)
2. Extremely a lot of nakashida
3. Scat (playing shit)
4. SM
5. Pee playing
6. Group sex

....and more.

Btw, just let you know...NAO., Akane Hotaru and some popular av girls are taking part in this video. Oh man....what happen to this business..all my favourites are going to do those nasty stuff..:sweatlaugh: :(

Simple answer: ...the whole damn business is going to the dogs.

And, although I am not a pet lover...I will be looking for this:p ...thanks for the heads up! :)

ryuuga

08-11-2006, 07:15 AM

Simple answer: ...the whole damn business is going to the dogs.

And, although I am not a pet lover...I will be looking for this:p ...thanks for the heads up! :)

Ya...have to accept with the trend that going on nowadays...:sweatlaugh:

Btw, eviltoon, or anyone, if you happen to find out this video in future, please do share with us in VIP. Although myself don't like the nasty stuff, but ..well...since my favourites NAO. & Akane Hotaru were in there, I must see it for myself.:eek:

wemic

08-11-2006, 03:10 PM

no one has answer me . is sex with animals legal in japan. all because it is produced it does not mean it is legal " jdix".
If it is legal then it is not as big a deal in that context.

To the best of my knowledge, sex with animals is not condoned in Japan but neither is it expressly outlawed. The same can be said for a number of US states, to wit:

* Alaska
* Arizona
* Colorado
* Connecticut
* Florida
* Hawaii
* Iowa
* Kentucky
* Louisiana
* Missouri
* Nebraska
* Nevada
* New Hampshire
* New Jersey
* New Mexico
* Ohio
* Oregon
* South Dakota
* Texas
* Vermont
* Washington
* West Virginia
* Wyoming

Google is a wonderful thing.

godzira

08-11-2006, 05:21 PM

eviltoon

08-11-2006, 06:13 PM

Super hero girls are sexy... but what I really want to see, is a super hero girl who can't control her bowels, or is preoccupied with saving the world and just can't hold it anymore - and shits all in her super suit....

will anyone cater to my ridiculously obscure needs???

Yep.

Thanks Sakura.

(only in japan, folks)

Thanks for providing the cover to this notorious DVD. I personally believe that Sakura can and will do anything. And if she is into saving the world and shitting all over tabletops...so be it. This girl makes me happy :p ...man, I'd like to see this one!

eightcut

08-11-2006, 07:55 PM

Thanks for providing the cover to this notorious DVD. I personally believe that Sakura can and will do anything. And if she is into saving the world and shitting all over tabletops...so be it. This girl makes me happy :p ...man, I'd like to see this one!

I wouldn't watch this horrible DVD at gunpoint. How repulsive!

eviltoon

08-11-2006, 09:11 PM

I wouldn't watch this horrible DVD at gunpoint. How repulsive!

Oh, you're completely right about it being repulsive. But it is amazing how diverse people's tastes are. I actually like replusive material. While Japanese AV certainly explores the limits of the more extreme sexual appetites, I can say with certaintly that the Germans seem to be out front messing about with an aesthetic all there own. Necrophelia is not something the Japanese seem to be into just yet...give it time though. But, that stuff will turn your stomach, yup. :(

ryoko_1973

08-12-2006, 01:01 PM

I think comparison of totally different societies is outright impossible. American and Japanese societies differ like night and day. Sex in Japan goes without a shame, where US is very puritan society (thinking nipple-slip "scandals" and all). Looking into a things or society from a small window that offers fantasized fake realm of reality like pornography, give very bad view for any judgement.

I think perhaps no outsider could never understand iron-penis shrines, schoolgirls earning extra as prostitutes, love motels and stuff like that. Age of consent is like 13, there is things like enjo kosai, high-school girls (kogal) dating older men, some may have regular sponsorship. There's ATMs you can buy girls used panties. Lots of weird sounding things. US and Japan are two different worlds with two totally different verying lenght backgrounds.

What I'm trying to say, such culture as Japan produces it's own world of fetishes, which probably feel very strange to outsiders. Same with all societies? Like I find it bit difficult what's all the fuzz with fantasizing about cheerleaders, but it's something very culture related. Also Japan is society for perfectionism, western call girl+8 gals bukkake, japanese put 150 men in the row. I guess it's also closed, ultra-competetive and unforgiving society for individual. And amount of open doors is limited if you're woman. One good side thou, you don't see much actors slapping women, strangling them all calling them dirty whores - japanese certain politeness and standard stays even in pornograhy scenes.

godzira

08-12-2006, 05:24 PM

Ryoko does have valid points, except for the last one:

"One good side thou, you don't see much actors slapping women, strangling them all calling them dirty whores - japanese certain politeness and standard stays even in pornograhy scenes."

Not true, rape and degradation make up a substantial part the mainstream AV scene...
abuse seems to be one of the biggest sellers.

ryoko_1973

08-13-2006, 11:43 AM

sad if mainstream is going that way. I found few years back in west, that people like robert black or max hardcore made gonzo that was just ..repelling. Misogynistic. For me, non-consensual themes and all kinds of violence is just a immediate turn-off.

If find it bit worrisome if (for example, youth) porn acts as virtual model how to deal with opposite sex. They may not realize difference between fantasy and reality. Some fantasies turned into real could be extremely hurting and traumatic experience for individual.

edit:typos

malau

08-14-2006, 03:05 AM

I remember there had been mention of this in a thread before, but I can't find it (the thread) using "search". But I remember people expressed an interest in seeing it - out of curiosity of course.
But if I put it in "Interesting Links", people will think "What the Hell ??" - probably here too :-)

You can download 3 x 4 minute RM samples (in ZIP format) from:-

http://www.hdouga.com/movie1019.html

There's a certain strangeness about watching a once top of the line AV Star sucking a dog's penis - and it is NOT a plastic one, it is dribbling p*ss and pulsating (Sakura does pick 'em !)

Anyway, she doesn't enjoy it, she seems to be trying not to puke when she isn't sobbing - probably wondering how it came to this, and how much she would like to kill her agent, because when he said "would you like to work with a dog ?", Sakura assumed he meant Maria Yumeno :jk: :-)

ryuuga

08-14-2006, 03:11 AM

I remember there had been mention of this in a thread before, but I can't find it (the thread) using "search".

The first post of this thread:

http://forum.scanlover.com/showpost.php?p=121545&postcount=1

Thread merged.

spike095

08-14-2006, 03:56 AM

i was under the impression that the majority of these were nowhere close to real (clever camera angles and censoring).

still, just the idea is enough to make some people stray far, far away.

lol @ malau :P

Eraldo

08-14-2006, 08:48 AM

ryuuga

08-14-2006, 09:37 AM

Malau, that site asks for a password... Can you upload the three clips somewhere?

Hmm..password? I never heard that people need a password to download hdouga movie sample...:confused: Let me check...

Ok. here's the instruction. After you access the link which malau given, scroll down to the middle of the page. See the screenshot I attached at below. See, there are 3 links (which I use red line to circle it). Left click them to download the zip, one time for each of them. There are totally 3 sample files in there.

Remember, LEFT CLICK the link to download. "Right click to save" won't work in this site.

Btw, this instruction is for I.E. I dunno whether it will works for FireFox. All I know is that the files don't need a password to download. Try it for yourself.

oh..and... according to their style, the files will be gone from the site after 4~5 days. So grab it faster if you want. Anyway, I won't download these 3 samples since they are not my cup of tea. ^_^ll

sakurafan

08-15-2006, 01:02 AM

I don't get it... she's fuckin hot, it's not like she needs to be that nasty.

Eraldo

08-15-2006, 05:02 AM

Oh, I see.

I was using Download Accelerator to get them. Maybe that's why.

Eraldo

08-16-2006, 08:42 AM

mike2323

08-16-2006, 08:54 AM

...

[just finished watching the previews]

I don't know who I should pity more, Sakura or the doggy :(

By the way, fellow freaks, among the AV companies, Giga [http://www.giga-freeks.net] does a lot of nasty stuff [bondage, violence, scat, etc]. They have previews too on their site (but only in mms links, no downloading :( )
LOL... that seems to be the same response i've gotten from some people I know who also watched this type of video or clip...it's like you head just starts to swell up...it might seem funny but it takes a lot of getting used to wacthing this type of vids... it's all good, co'z it just part of being in the AV industry...ok somebody post more of this ... :)

Eraldo

08-16-2006, 09:11 AM

mike2323, if you know how to download streamed videos from giga, some of the nasty stuff hinted in this thread might be uploaded...

mike2323

08-16-2006, 09:17 AM

mike2323, if you know how to download streamed videos from giga, some of the nasty stuff hinted in this thread might be uploaded...
I just checked the link ... maybe it's just me but I get a message "server not found"... anybody else getting the same problem? streaming videos, what format are they?

Eraldo

08-16-2006, 09:28 AM

the link worked for me tho'

maybe they block your place...

szsprod

08-16-2006, 09:33 AM

I just checked the link ... maybe it's just me but I get a message "server not found"... anybody else getting the same problem? streaming videos, what format are they?
Problem solved, the original eraldo post contains a ] at the end of the link so it doesnt recognize it.

Just take away the ]

http://www.giga-freeks.net

Try it now! Enjoy!

mike2323

08-16-2006, 09:43 AM

Problem solved, the eraldo post contains a ] at the end of the link so it doesnt recognize it.

Just take away the ]

http://www.giga-freeks.net

Try it now! Enjoy!
it works... I am in..thanks for catching that, ok now let's see what freaky stuff they got in this website... :) ok... just viewed the site and by the looks of it, it's pretty standard S&M...I didn't see any beastiality.. unless it's in a different link?

Eraldo

08-18-2006, 03:57 AM

it works... I am in..thanks for catching that, ok now let's see what freaky stuff they got in this website... :) ok... just viewed the site and by the looks of it, it's pretty standard S&M...I didn't see any beastiality.. unless it's in a different link?

Hmm... must've missed that in my explanation. Giga doesn't do bestiality IIRC. But they do some scat, watersports, and torture movies.

keebs

08-18-2006, 09:22 PM

She's a freak. Hot as fuck, but a feak just the same.

seran

08-19-2006, 12:58 AM

Not really particularly my type of hotness, an just seeing her on a cover with a dog kind of put me off even more. Bu t whatever floats your boat, I'm not judging. =P

malau

08-19-2006, 01:55 AM

If you want to see afew samples from the Dog Movie then PM me and i'll give you the link. I can't post it. I tried once one week ago and the Mod removed the thread immediately.

It IS a rank movie for sure. You WON'T need to have a box of Kleenex handy that's for sure :-)

ryuuga

08-19-2006, 02:52 AM

If you want to see afew samples from the Dog Movie then PM me and i'll give you the link. I can't post it. I tried once one week ago and the Mod removed the thread immediately.

Removed? Nope. Your thread is still alive, but it does not deserve as a single thread since there is already one thread which more suitable and relevant for it to be located: Super Nasty AV thread.

http://forum.scanlover.com/showthread.php?t=3365

Check it, your post been moved inside that thread (at last few page).

And btw, check your posts status to make sure whether your posts are really been removed or not by using your profile function, before you claim something wrong.

malau

08-19-2006, 05:12 AM

When I looked (at the time), I did a search for all posts by "malau" and it showed nothing I recognised, and as bestiality is illegal, I thought I must have broken the rules by linking to it.

haradasun

08-19-2006, 03:58 PM

After reading this thread, I'm feeling so sadfor sakura. I almost vomitted after seeing the dog game cover. i don't really know what to say, except maybe... may god have mercy on her soul :( :( :( :( :( :(

Kane

08-19-2006, 06:50 PM

You guys do know that some of these "AV Stars" are forced to do this right. It's not their decision. Some Of these men Threaten these women, make them scared.They will say such thing as we will kill your family if you dont do such and such.Trust me i know.

It's the Yakuza, just like in Hong Kong, where the Triads (三合会) coerce actors/actresses to take on compromising roles, sometimes in Cat III movies.

eviltoon

08-19-2006, 10:14 PM

Well, thanks to malau for the links, and thanks ryuuga for the instructions on how to find the links...

I've now seen this infamous film:(. Folks what we have here is the very worst of porn. It is the very stuff that all AV detractors rant about. This is exploitation. Generally speaking I think pornstars make the decision to get into porn...for whatever there reason...the choice is there's to say yes or no. If they say yes then they are AV actresses.

With this film...what I saw was a woman being forced to perform an act that she would not willing do. I believe Sakura has gotten herself into some big time trouble (whether dug addiction and debts, shopping addiction and debts, or maybe gambling and debts. I cannot help thinking she has little choice here but to pay off debts to some very nasty people.

There was no acting in this film. She is being forced to fuck a dog. Sadly, I think Sakura's life is spinning out of control. Someone probably needs to step in and help her out...maybe she is too messed up...maybe she just counting time for her final exit. I liked her previous films...she is a beautiful woman...but I bet her story is as bad as they get. Sad :(

szsprod

08-20-2006, 05:21 AM

...With this film...what I saw was a woman being forced to perform an act that she would not willing do. I believe Sakura has gotten herself into some big time trouble (whether dug addiction and debts, shopping addiction and debts, or maybe gambling and debts. I cannot help thinking she has little choice here but to pay off debts to some very nasty people.

There was no acting in this film. She is being forced to fuck a dog. Sadly, I think Sakura's life is spinning out of control. Someone probably needs to step in and help her out...maybe she is too messed up...maybe she just counting time for her final exit. I liked her previous films...she is a beautiful woman...but I bet her story is as bad as they get. Sad :(
True I saw it too, and she was forced into everything being held down by some shady guys, she was crying and trying to get away the whole time.

Also to keep her making films like these, those shady guys (Prob. Yakusa or Something?) will get her addicted to drugs, so shell have to keep coming back to them to get her fix and making money for them!

OMFG this is so nasty, but can't seem to dwnl those clips anyway I don't think I will mis something...
The only thing your missing out on, is seeing the downfall of a beautiful woman. To Bad! So Sad!

Note To bbenson67: I agree her standards were messed up to begin with, but if youve seen the video, youll see that she was forced. If its an act then she deserves an oscar!

bbenson67

08-20-2006, 07:33 AM

eviltoon

08-20-2006, 08:58 AM

I made a point earlier on in this thread that I think bears repeating once more. These actresses are not your typical girls. Their standards and view of what is normal is very different from the girl who sits next to you in the office everyday. I agree that dogs and incest and scat are pretty far over the line even by porn standards but this wasn't a sudden change in Sakura's personality. Rather, it was an incremental move to the "darker side" of porn. Maybe she is a thrill seeker or maybe she is like a junkie who needs to have a bigger fix or maybe she got paid millions of yen to test the limits. Who really cares. She is not our girlfriend or even our friend, she is simply some pixels on a screen. Sorry to be so harsh, but if you start empathizing with and analyzing every porn chicks motivation for why she does what she does, you will just make yourself crazy and a little sad. You will also kill the eroticism which is why most of us watch porn. Just my $.02.

I agree with your view pretty much entirely. Empethy doesn't really come into play, mostly it's just fantasy and amazement. Yes I agree $ is the big lure, and maybe Sakure is lured to the darker side of porn, but I still feel that in this film she has lost control of her senses and is performing for reasons far beyond her well being. I think she has gotten herself in deep shit and well, what happens next?...Do we see her go deeper and deeper into the messy stuff, or will she bounce back with a simple little bukakke bath.

Anyone know what she is doing now? Like, what her last film was?

tomeis1234

08-20-2006, 01:52 PM

i don't dare to turn to first page....jz read up what u guys posted.....

mrgentry

08-20-2006, 02:03 PM

well next will be dog-scat.
Having said that I have seen to related dogs sniff each others butts is that incest.

godzira

08-20-2006, 05:34 PM

In most of her new movies, she plays the dominant lesbian... but she is not the star. She's doing work for Attackers, her newest flick stars Yuka Haneda.
I saw her in an Erika Satoh movie where she wasn't even credited on the cover.

whoameye23

08-20-2006, 11:14 PM

I'd understand beastiality, but eating shit? Why the FUCK would these chicks want to eat shit? I hope their getting paid ALOT for doing it.

Eraldo

08-22-2006, 07:06 AM

Just a thought... an AV version of 'Fear Factor' might include the things mentioned in this thread.

ahmadjek

08-23-2006, 12:40 PM

you can find some great preview here of them japs girls having "fun" with men's best fren. http://www.av-karma.com/works/genre/genre_jyukan.html

ONIKAGE

08-25-2006, 05:06 PM

benson got it all right and by the way the dog game is a rape themed movie and dont forget sakura is an actress.a porn actress yes,but still a goddamn good one.
cmon,a girl who accept to shot 2 porn movies together with her mom,would you think shes really that naive,defenseless and innocent?
also try and keep your feet on the ground...what you see in movies is fiction and not reality and sakura's tears are jsut acting.maybe it sounds convincing to the most of teh people who woudl think bestiality is such disgusting thing that no girl could help crying at the tought,but you know,sme girls are into porn just because they love sex and will try anything new for once at least.and may god bless them for this.
i think none of you seen kei sugiyama in beast fuck 17 otherwise you d have felt awkward realizing how much this girl got off to get banged by dogs (or at least,how good she was at pretending it),so dont let ur symphaty for sakura fool u.
this movie is legally sold in japan which thing we cant say for any other video sakura did recently as shes mainly an uncensored actress so...
just i think,even if japanese seem twisted at times,i doubt they would really film a rape n sell it in regular stores like that.
gosh,even rinako hirasawa,aya fuji,yui aizawa and yoko did dogs but most important...theres aplenty of porn actress who do that in europe but just because you dont happen to like them you wont say they must be forced to that and maybe you will even say they are just freaks.no,it makes no sense.
wheter their reasons r,moeny or sex,u just gotta cope with that or stop watching their videos but trust me,sakura does not need ur pity,bcoz shes having fun and in the worst case,shes gettin a whole bunch of cash anyways!

PEACE

eviltoon

08-25-2006, 05:45 PM

Okay, well ONIKAGE & bbenson67 you maybe right. But what that tells me is some of these girls (like Sakura) are far better actresses than I ever gave them credit for. If she is acting in this doggie film, then she is good. Lucky for us they chose porn, rather than mainstream.

sub3000

08-25-2006, 06:44 PM

I think they use fake shit

eviltoon

08-25-2006, 07:03 PM

I think they use fake shit

Oh, I don't...fake costs more than real...I bet it's real. These are pretty low budget operations...every penny (or yen) counts. No SFX, no fake...that's my opinion anyway

diomedes

08-25-2006, 08:54 PM

This freaked me out as i was doing the routine torrent search:

Call me naive, but that sure made me -->:eek:

Yui Aizawa, i believe...

eviltoon

08-25-2006, 09:34 PM

This freaked me out as i was doing the routine torrent search:

Call me naive, but that sure made me -->:eek:

Yui Aizawa, i believe...

Well that's the good 'ol corporate competitive spirit! Why settle for what someone else has already done, always go one better! (so this time it's two doggies:(). One day soon it will be doggie bukakke baths:p

Obscura

08-25-2006, 10:22 PM

Yui Aizawa, i believe...

At least they had the good taste to censor it! Somehow ironic...

eightcut

08-25-2006, 10:45 PM

Yui Aizawa, i believe...

At least they had the good taste to censor it! Somehow ironic...

It may be censored but I'm sure good taste had nothing to do with it. Just having looked at the cover of that DVD will make me limp whenever I think about it. I think of myself as open minded, but this thread makes me aware of the boundaries I would never cross. Yet I wonder why I keep checking the updates on it?

bbenson67

08-26-2006, 01:39 AM

The Yui Aizawa doggie movie torrent was posted yesterday on the javtalk bittorent forum. I passed because I don't think she's that cute. Now if it was Maria Ozawa....

caliburX

08-27-2006, 11:26 AM

noooooo y y

Darth Demon

08-28-2006, 08:21 AM

Simply wow, as I didn't expect JAV doing this.

keebs

08-28-2006, 03:17 PM

After seeing the dog-cover thing, its kinda ruined her for me.

ONIKAGE

08-28-2006, 10:10 PM

yha i posted the aizawa doggie torrent...and i suggest only the strongest stomachs 2 view it bcoz,well only 2 words: nakadashi,gokkun.
it wasnt really the first time i saw a girl doing that with a dog,but well it always makes a certain effect (on me:laughters,on others: prolly vomit).
also i forgot to mention the excellent chihiro hasegawa...if you love extreme javs u prolly kno her too,as shes one of the most popular dogma front actresses...but how many of you knew her first video was indeed a bestiality and the second a scat one?
personally i dont find her especially hot but gotta say,shes a real pro when it comes about freaky porn,ahahah!
i just wish ran monbu ever realized her fantasy to get it on with pigs...hm now that i think about it,theres still some hope as long as shes in the biz,esp now that she does uncensored videos.a man can always dream (even something twisted like that),no? :P

PEACE

bakana8

08-30-2006, 12:20 AM

wierd, just plain wierd

asianbooblover

09-18-2006, 01:53 PM

Hi,
I am relatively new to Japanese AV stars. A question for those much knowledgeable than me. Who do you think are the nastiest of them- that is, who really tease and seem to enjoy themselves? Many that I have seen short clips of, appear to be forced into sex or quite disinterested. Two exceptions, in my opinion, are Rei Himekawa and Maria Yumeno, who regularly initiate the action and seem to be into what they are doing. I would appreciate any help on this, as I really enjoy the genre, but find too much of what I have described. Thanks.

malau

09-18-2006, 02:00 PM

Sakura Sakurada seems to do anything - "incest" with her "Mum", sex with dogs, scat, urinating, rape, lesbian - she even does straight consensual sex occasionally :-)

EDIT - just realised that this was in the Sakura thread DOH ! (!)

layzboy

09-19-2006, 09:27 AM

man that is some of the nastiest things i saw or heard of, damn my curiosity and clicking on the links :eek:

What is this girl thinking, her head looks nice, but what's inside it is definitely messed up.

BlueMouse

09-21-2006, 01:42 PM

HOLY fuck this shit is disgusting

i immediately deleted the 2 images of sakura afterwards that i had just downloaded

this shit will never be for me

ughhhh so gross

teokun

09-22-2006, 10:42 AM

dont blame the japs
japanese porn are really following american porn now...
who intruduced those kind of things anyway??

losermike

10-01-2006, 11:49 AM

Wow!!! Just Wow. Seems like Sakura would do anything except anal, dp, dv, and da.

ryuuga

10-01-2006, 01:36 PM

Wow!!! Just Wow. Seems like Sakura would do anything except anal, dp, dv, and da.

I know about anal. But what is dp, dv & da? Mind to elaborate them?:confused:

bbenson67

10-02-2006, 02:22 AM

Ryuuga, I believe that dp=double penetration(anal and vaginal with two guys)
dv=double vaginal(two cocks in the same vagina)
da-double anal(two cocks in the same anus)

A little too homoerotic for me as the naked men are in pretty close proximity for these acts but some guys won't follow an actress unless she does any or all of the above.

iamsam

10-02-2006, 02:55 AM

After seeing this thread...I have opted not to watch her vids nemore...thanks guys!

ryuuga

10-02-2006, 03:25 AM

Ryuuga, I believe that dp=double penetration(anal and vaginal with two guys)
dv=double vaginal(two cocks in the same vagina)
da-double anal(two cocks in the same anus)

Ah I see. Thanks for the explaination, bbenson67.:)

Double penetration and Double vagina are kind of rare in the JAVs, but they are still could be found in some amateur videos. Meanwhile, these are the common scenes in western hardcore movies.

However, double anal? :eek: Is it possible? I never seen it and I also never heard of it. Neither in any country's adult film. And my question is can it really be able to do by the human?:confused:

toetsie

10-02-2006, 07:31 AM

whhoaaa bbenson67... da-double anal(two cocks in the same anus)?? hahaha is that possible? never seen the scene.. :-)

bbenson67

10-03-2006, 12:33 AM

There is a subset of porn aficionados which have labeled this double anal as a "dap" which stands for double anal penetration and they keep lists of actresses who do them. Search adultdvdtalk/forum with the term "dap" and you will see what I mean.

godzira

10-06-2006, 06:30 AM

It looks like Sakura is now getting behind the camera as well...

I for one would like to see how directs her own movies, could be interesting!

losermike

10-06-2006, 09:31 AM

Double Anal is really popular in Europe and gay porn. It's gaining popularity in the United States in straight porn.

There's actually more crazier stuff than DA, there's DVA (Double Vaginal + Anal), I've never seen it, but I've heard it's been done in Euro porn and some American porn.

South Park made fun of it creating DVDA (Double Vaginal + Double Anal)

ryoko_1973

10-07-2006, 10:10 PM

Iirc some taller frame stars like Akira Shiratori have made lots of anal/DP in films more or less regulary imo, also smaller frame stars like Miho Oyadani, Senna Kurosaki (as examples - Hm, I recall seeing Senna do anal only not DP thou). Lovely Akira Shiratori flick for legend titled 'bukkake creampie anal fuck' (romanjization) was pretty darn hot in my opinion. With smaller fetish productions like DMS Night24 stuff, anal/DP is more like a rule? Companies spezialize imo more easily than in west, like shuttle japan co. is focused on bukkake/cosplay stuff mostly, not that small production company means automatically exteme backdoor specials.

Ob Sakurada, has she made fisting in any of her film titles?

poopie

10-08-2006, 05:37 AM

Haha seems the topic changed from the first page to the last page in this thread. Have any of you guys seen the first page. It's a no-no. So disgusting =\

Sakura was one of my fav idols, but what she has done has completely changed my perception.

malau

10-08-2006, 05:51 AM

...............Sakurada, has she made fisting in any of her film titles?

She was probably fisted in her debut ! :-)

She's probably being "gang fisted", or being quindruple fisted with razorblade gloves these days, or maybe she's even fisting dogs ? :-) Woof Woof !!

I wonder if Speedbit known about this DAP acronym ? It lessens the prestige of Download Accelerator somewhat :-)

technie

10-08-2006, 07:32 AM

Ah I see. Thanks for the explaination, bbenson67.:)

Double penetration and Double vagina are kind of rare in the JAVs, but they are still could be found in some amateur videos. Meanwhile, these are the common scenes in western hardcore movies.

However, double anal? :eek: Is it possible? I never seen it and I also never heard of it. Neither in any country's adult film. And my question is can it really be able to do by the human?:confused:

Briana Banks has done it before double anal. Thats the only western star i know who has done that before.. anyone knows any others ?

ryoko_1973

10-08-2006, 03:12 PM

Sandra Romain, Audrey Hollander, Shonna Lynn, Liza Harper, Channon, Candy Vegas, China Lee, Nikki Bratz, Jayna Oso, Lyla Lei, Kammy .. elegant angel or acid rain had all d-a releases iirc.

ONIKAGE

10-10-2006, 03:23 PM

4 those interested in seeing sakura performance in the dog game,i posted the torrent over javtalk.com forums;
the file is nearly 2gb but its very well seeded n fast 2 dwld.
in any case,u better b warned that this is a rape video and the beasiality only comes at the very end of it.
sakura does play the role of the harrassed victim very well,so if u r disgusted by abuse n zoo n cant stand 2 watch a woman cry,u better stick away from this.
personally,i found it hard 2 enjoy bcoz rape videos r a turn off 2 me n i d hv much rathered sakura 2 play a different role n see her enjoy it a little but,well...beggars r no choosers i think.
for strong stomachs only.

PEACE

desan

10-10-2006, 10:08 PM

i personally find her...ugh
shes not hot and she does those uber extreme vids..whatever floats ur guys boat

rocktin

10-10-2006, 10:29 PM

hahaha wouldnt be suprised, its probably not her first time

sdho

10-14-2006, 06:14 PM

I'm downloading it right now...thank you for the dog game. I guess I'm really curious about this.

4 those interested in seeing sakura performance in the dog game,i posted the torrent over javtalk.com forums;
the file is nearly 2gb but its very well seeded n fast 2 dwld.
in any case,u better b warned that this is a rape video and the beasiality only comes at the very end of it.
sakura does play the role of the harrassed victim very well,so if u r disgusted by abuse n zoo n cant stand 2 watch a woman cry,u better stick away from this.
personally,i found it hard 2 enjoy bcoz rape videos r a turn off 2 me n i d hv much rathered sakura 2 play a different role n see her enjoy it a little but,well...beggars r no choosers i think.
for strong stomachs only.

PEACE

chompy

10-28-2006, 05:40 PM

basnobasno

10-29-2006, 12:44 PM

Can someone explain this?

Edit: Found it. http://www.oisinbosoft.com/dera/MK-SMA-201.html
Looks like a standard pregnancy movie apart from that....foetus looking mass in the top right of the back. Kinda disturbing...

that's not a fetus that's just roasted red peppers . . . at least that is what i am telling myself . . . .

szsprod

11-01-2006, 11:40 PM

Can someone explain this?

Edit: Found it. http://www.oisinbosoft.com/dera/MK-SMA-201.html
Looks like a standard pregnancy movie apart from that....foetus looking mass in the top right of the back. Kinda disturbing...
Son of a bitch!, and here i thought this thread couldnt get any worse!
I can tolerate dogs and sometimes feces, but fetuses!
Shit just thinking about it makes me dry heave!
Whats Next! Corpses! Cuz I Dont Think Its Illegal!

Great Thread BTW! HAHAAHHAAH!

Ogben

11-04-2006, 08:16 AM

mandark

11-07-2006, 10:35 AM

This was quite an eye opener for me. I never could have in my WILDEST dream have thought that a main stream AV star like Sakura Sakurada could be in a bestiality movie.

OMG!!!

sennalvr

12-06-2006, 10:39 PM

I posted this in the EE section, but nobody commented so I thought I'd move it here.

I knew Ms. Sakurada was a kinky freak, and that's why I love her so, but this shocked me.

I mean, she's one of the most famous AV stars. Why would she do this?
Does anyone think she was forced?

I'd appreciate comments from anyone living in Japan on this... US porn stars at this level of popularity wouldn't even think about this... it's baffling.

Please comment

I've actually seen a clip from the beast movie Sakura-chan did. It was on one of the newsgroups. It was also quite the turn-off. She didn't look like she was enjoying herself one bit. In fact it looked like she was in tears and it looked like she was being forced into it.

The thing I had to object to was the fact that there was a group of men around her watching the action. And this included what looked like a young boy somewhere between the ages of say...10-12yo. What business do they have letting a boy that young watch that shit. Tell me he won't be really messed up when he gets older.

And you say she does SCAT as well??? There's something I could not and never will understand. It's bad enough to be shit on in the metaphorical sense. But to be shit on in the literal sense??? Sakura-chan, can you say, "I NEED SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP!!, ?

Damm Yakuza!!! What level they won't stoop to.

sennalvr

12-06-2006, 11:22 PM

toiluop

12-07-2006, 02:46 AM

That is not an influence from North America....Guaranteed...........

basnobasno

12-07-2006, 03:17 AM

Well, for what it's worth. At least the beasty stuff from Europe makes them look like they're enjoying it. Sakura-chan didn't look like she was enjoying it. How can you enjoy something if the object of yor lust doesn't look like she's enjoying it?

because what you lust for isnt the object but the act . . . .

eviltoon

12-07-2006, 03:37 AM

Seems like Ayano Miyuki has also made a doggy movie. For an update on all the AV stars who has done it I reccomend this link;

http://www.office21.gr.jp/japan/catalog/jyu-kan/20060626-jyukan/index01.htm

Names and pictures and all... bleh!:)

That's some kind of find there Ogben. All those doggies and wimmin doing very weird stuff. Looks like Sakura ain't so messed up after all:p . Thanks for the link! ...Eviltoon is a big Sakura fan, no matter what she is doing:)

shadowfiend

12-12-2006, 05:47 PM

Is it just me or does the dogs all look the same? Anyway, beastiality is just messed up. I find the fact that people get turned on by it disgusting.

deeperez1

12-19-2006, 06:26 PM

cabaal

12-19-2006, 07:06 PM

"The Eel and the Loach something something"... On the cover it says "The Fat Eel and the Loach are inserted in the anus of a lewd lesbian" (right above the Japanese Title)
The Japanese Title roughly into the same "The Eel, the Loach and the lewd Lesbian Anal" (極太鰻と泥鰌と淫らなレズ肛門)
AFAIK there have been a lot of people looking around, here and on other forums, so if you find it post a note :).
...I recall it was posted as censored on a chinese site, but maybe it was another one with eels (AFAIK there's like 3+ out there)...

Edit:
Holly, it increased to 10 (!!!beastiality warning!!!) http://www.shocker.jp/SR/SR341.htm (!!!beastiality warning!!!)

serftewl

01-13-2007, 06:27 AM

hey all, I'm new here...

out of curiosity, was anyone here aware of Sakura's OTHER movie with her mother? i've never been able to find it on the internet...only shots of the cover.

eviltoon

01-13-2007, 08:47 PM

:queerlook:

anyone know who this is? or what the video is called?

EDIT: cabaal, thank you for the information, if i do get the video, I will post it in Downloadable Goodies and update this post so people can find it easily.

Holy crap, just when I thought it couldn't get any worse...um no, I mean better:p ...that's one hell of a link there cabaal. I wonder how I can find me some of that weirdness DVD stuff:confused:. I got the bug eater vid, but I want more! Sakura is begining to look very middle of the road, yup:nod:

ryuuga

01-17-2007, 12:58 PM

Uhummm.....

Folks. Our friend Ruagia has posted the "DOG SEX" clip of Sakura Sakurada in the DG forum:

http://forum.scanlover.com/showpost.php?p=241927&postcount=314

If anyone of you interested, just knock yourself out. :...:

No, I have no interest at all. But I just thought that I should inform you guys in case some of you (who are interested) may miss it.

ExtremelyHappy

01-17-2007, 01:55 PM

Uhummm.....
Folks. Our friend Ruagia has posted the "DOG SEX" clip of Sakura Sakurada in the DG forum:

Excuse my prudishness but UGH! URRRGGGHHH! UUGHHHHHHHHHHHH.

I'd mention it to my buddy who has a dog, but I don't think he'd talk to me again!

I hope it is a guy in a dogsuit or something. yeah, thats it.

ruagia

01-18-2007, 06:13 AM

Look what she did!!!! :amazed:
Why would such a famous AV star get so nasty?
Can anyone in Japan enlighten us?

Yah, I did posted the movie that she "played" around with a "cute"dog 516057

http://forum.scanlover.com/showthread.php?t=9168&page=32

But I think the emotions are faked, the dog actually needed "a hand" to get his thing in :abandoned: poor doggy :why: and why there is a mark man in the last scene :surprised: when most of them have shown their face ?

yoda-san

01-19-2007, 03:25 AM

WOW!!! I'd never seen Sakura do that before. That is just brave or insane on her part.

pkthunder

01-21-2007, 11:22 PM

i dont really mind the mom one to be honest but the poop and hte dog is jsut ssuper nasty

zantet58

01-24-2007, 07:16 AM

bit off topic but does japanese make stuff similar to the ones on the movie 8mm?

DG Syndrome

01-30-2007, 11:49 AM

bit off topic but does japanese make stuff similar to the ones on the movie 8mm?

I've never seen any real evidence... I'd assume it would be made in situations analagous to what was explored in 8mm's plot. (e.g. highly secret and permanently underground, only available to "porn zombies" in dark basements, etc.)

Hello everyone!! It looks like you have a really nice community here!! As far as I've seen, it doesn't seem to be all hypher-aggressive and petty, like a lot of adult-entertainment-based boards/forums out there. :hero:

So... Anyway, this is my first post at Scanlover!
Sorry for the extra-long post, but I'd like to introduce myself and I think maybe I can help to add to some of the questions you have all been discussing in this thread (ot at least add my 2 cents from personal experience).

I wandered into Scanlover (to this specific topic from Google) because I've been thinking about this movie. I've not actually watched it but I've seen screen caps of Sakura Sakurada with the dog... So, I've kinda been wondering what other people think about it!

I think people (of any age and number) should be able to do whatever they want with each other, as long as it is something they all cool with (...including simulated rape ...including incest ...including taking a crap into each other's mouths... NOT my fetish, but I have no problem with them and celebrate and congratulate people's right to do so!) :snicker:
But...
To tell the truth, animal sex is pretty disgusting/disturbing to me (and yet it kinda turns me on... I think this is because it does disgust me so much!?)
I'd never actually watch an animal movie, but I'm really tempted to check this one out because what I really do like is Japanese girls ;) Haha

Japanese girls are my major fetish and I think Sakura Sakurada is a really fine piece, maybe even a dime piece!?
But, I can't really bring myself to check it out... Even though some dark part of myself REALLY wants to VERY VERY BADLY!!!

I would agree with some of the earlier posters that sometimes (although I bet rarely) Japanese girls are coerced into doing these kinds of movies with threats or blackmailing, on the other hand, if you've ever met one of those really money-hungry Japanese girls, this is the kind of thing that would only be a minor speed bump for such a girl.
As far as I can tell, Sakura Sakurada is one such a money-lovin' girl. And I'd say every once in a while, even with heavy make-up, she does look kinda strung out (so maybe the root cause is drugs as someone said before in this topic).
But, I REALLY doubt that any AV actress has ever been FORCED to take drugs by the Yakuza and then become a porn actress to support the habit forced onto her, as someone earlier postulated. (I think this is very unlikely for more reasons than I can list...)

Anyway, a loooooong time ago I saw clips from a movie in which Sakura Sakurada pretty much has sloppy sex with an octopus (just with the tenticles, I guess?)... So, in a way, this type of dog movie is not too far off from that, right??
I think Sakura just does whatever movies are brought to her if the $$ is right (example: see the mother and scat stuff mentioned earlier).
But, on the other hand, that is actually an old (ancient?) Japanese story about a Japanese beauty and her Octopi lovers (you can find authentic old Japanese wood block prints of this, if you look around). So there is some historic precedence for this sort of stuff, in Japanese culture. (Maybe so for all cultures with animistic traditions like some of those found in Shinto?)
But, somehow this situation is a little different than that, right??
What is shocking to me is that it is "Sakura Sakurada" doing it... I guess she just does everything now??? I have my fingers crossed that this is not the start of a bunch of hot girls doing it, like a lot of you in here... (Although there is still that wicked part of myslef that would secretly love to see it! Haha)

When I've wandered around porn stores in Akihabara, some did have beastiality movies. BUT, all the DVD cases that I noticed were imports (European or Latin movies with added mosaic)... Which would support the claim that someone made earlier that this is actually illegal in Japan (maybe illegal to create, but not import?)
However, I didn't look VERY hard (I didn't even go into those sections as it was too nasty for me, I felt myself turning green just looking at the DVD titles - no Japanese girls, no point at all), so it is possible that they had some Japanese animal DVDs hidden in a corner somewhere and I just didn't look hard enough. Or maybe this is the kind of thing you can only buy in the hidden spots like the uncensored Japanse movies?? (The latter is what I would assume more than the former)

By the way you can meet some Japanese AV actresses almost every week in Akihabara for autographs, promotion, etc. (and some do actually speak/understand a little English too), so all you ultra-fans, I advise you to pack your bags and you can make your dreams come true!! (I've never seen a room full of so many sweaty, uptight, nervous-looking Japanese guys before I went to one! Haha)
My best moment last year was meeting Megu Hagiwara (she was even more fly in-person, she even told me the Shibuya dance club she often likes to go to, but I didn't see her there on the one occasion that I went...) :giveup:

As a last note about this topic, before I move on to my (unwanted?) opinions about Japanese scat movies.
My (very first ever!! Yay!!) girlfriend, "Yumi", always teased me about this nasty kind of stuff because she could tell I hated it (and that I was secretly curious about it too! Haha).
She swore that it was not uncommon for ugly young Japanese girls put sweet stuff (she said, "melting ice cream... ...or honey") on their pussy and have their little pet dog lick it off for kicks!?
She was not joking either, she said most Japanese people thought that it was was not that rare (I told her Americans would think it was), but that she had never heard of boys doing something similar, only girls...?? Maybe there is a slightly different climate for this kind of movie (and a famous AV actress "crossing" into this nasty stuff) if many Japanese people are already assuming these kinds of things go on with (whether it is actually true or not)??
As a side note, ever since I heard that, I've tried to aways steer clear of hooking up with Japanese girls :sick:

Anyway, on the other hand (yeah I said it again)... I've heard the vast majority of Japanese scat movies are at least semi-simulated! I have this on VERY good authority!
There is a popular Japanese blog writer out there, but I'm not saying his name (but his blog is in English and its really dope), that used to work in the porn industry and will tell you all about it, if he likes you.

He says usually the girls have had an enema (or 2 or 3) and are all cleaned out then filled again with stuff that looks approximately like shit. He said sometimes it is something such as dogfood if the actress can't act like it is something really really disgusting, then she doesn't have to act as hard 'cause that is still pretty gross... Hahaha
But, in my own personal experience, even pretty normal/average Japanese girls are not affraid to put almost anything in their mouth
(or put their tongue into almost anyplace! Hahaha) :inlove:
So maybe its not that big of a deal to do 100% authentic scat films for some Japanese girls?? (I blame Natto for this!!)

I had a lot more stuff to say in here, but I have to go to bed... (midterm exam tomorrow!)
By the way, in the basement of one of the really famous porn stores near Akihabara station there is some REALLY nasty stuff (just a little rack of DVDs near the stairs) that I have nightmares about when I remember about the covers... The most tame one I saw there was the eel/worm movie mentioned earlier in this topic...
Hmmm... Let me put it this way, if I could go back in time and un-see those DVD covers, I would, and that says a lot, (because I never actually even turned the DVD case over to look at the backs!!)

Good night all, I hope my long addition was helpful in this topic (and forum) and I'll go back to trying to figure out if I want to see this Sakura Sakurada movie
(I do! I don't! I do! I don't! I really do!! I really don't!!) :evillaugh:

Nsan

01-30-2007, 03:28 PM

ahket

01-30-2007, 04:47 PM

omg that so disgusting !

diver10007

01-30-2007, 05:02 PM

DG, LOL... word my friend...

There's some wierd shit in Japan (no pun intended!)... Having lived in Japan for nearly a decade... Sakura and her AV frends doing this stuff, scat, bestiality, etc doesn't faze me at all... simulated? maybe... real? possibly...

I did have a good laugh at the link someone posted. Frogs!!! sweet! stuffing frogs into j-pussy... that had me rolling on the ground laughing...

I'm not gonna go into any pyscho-babble about the Japanese but there's a real dark side to Japan in general... everything aint Hello Kitty, Sailor Moon and "kawaii"...

Now that being said, not all J-girls are nuts. Most I've met are pretty straight laced, but once in awhile you'll meet a couple that will have your jaw dropping in terms of what they're willing to do... ;)

Peace... woof! woof!

godzira

01-31-2007, 02:14 AM

great post dg, some interesting comments.

there does seem to be things sakura won't do (interracial, anal and dp - for example)

I'm not a big fan of the last two, but as a north american whitey, I'm still hoping for the first.

bbenson67

01-31-2007, 04:22 AM

DG Syndrome, I am so glad you have become a member of the forum. You are just the person to help all of us gain better insight into the fascinating world of JAV. Your comments are so insightful and enlightening. Please continue to post here.

As far as giving in to your "darkside" on the Sakura doggy movie, I have seen it and it is really mostly a rape movie with the animal stuff near the end. It is pretty strong stuff but not the kind of thing nightmares are made of.

DG Syndrome

02-01-2007, 07:30 AM

Thanks for your interesting comments DG!

I think this animal sex trend is disturbing. I know there will always be some vids like this, but I don't like an increase of this kind of video. It is my opinion that they may be mistreating or abusing the dogs in some way. I don't like that.

No prob, Nsan! I read through the whole topic and saw some things throughout the pages that maybe I could bring my own experiences into!
:nice:
I gotta agree with you, it is NOT a good trend (and I hope it won't increase more and more, as many posters are postulating).

Yeah, I think one of the main issues beyond the nasty factor is that it may be harmful to animals... And even people in some cases!!
Did you hear about that guy in Seattle who got killed when he was trying to have sex with his horse?? (Haha after that whole disgusting deal, Washington sent through some serious anti-bestiality legislation to prevent harm on both ends!)

DG, LOL... word my friend...

There's some wierd shit in Japan (no pun intended!)... Having lived in Japan for nearly a decade... Sakura and her AV frends doing this stuff, scat, bestiality, etc doesn't faze me at all... simulated? maybe... real? possibly...

I did have a good laugh at the link someone posted. Frogs!!! sweet! stuffing frogs into j-pussy... that had me rolling on the ground laughing...

I'm not gonna go into any pyscho-babble about the Japanese but there's a real dark side to Japan in general... everything aint Hello Kitty, Sailor Moon and "kawaii"...

Now that being said, not all J-girls are nuts. Most I've met are pretty straight laced, but once in awhile you'll meet a couple that will have your jaw dropping in terms of what they're willing to do... ;)

Peace... woof! woof!

Hahahaha diver10007!!!
Homie, you are faaaaaar more hardcore than I could be, I envy you!!! I'm turning green again even thinking about frogs being stuffed into a cute Japanese girl's slot... Ugh...
:sick: :barf:
I totally agree with what you said about the dark side of Japan! For example, regardless of how safe Japan is suppossed to be, a Gaijin friend said she was never going back after she got chased down a street by a drunk Japanese guy with his dick out, stroking hard!!
(That was her moment of clarity that "everything aint Hello Kitty" as you said!! Haha) :surprised:

So, I gotta ask, you have been there a good amount of time, what is the hands-down darkest or nastiest thing you have seen, while kickin' it in the land of the Hinomaru??

Good call about most girls too!!! (But, *shhhhhhh* don't spread it around that there are some seriously FREAKY Japanese girls! I think a lot of the world doesn't know yet!! BTW, I think it is telling that you used the words "a couple" in your post, possibley speaking from some pretty memorable first-hand experience with "a couple" of girls at once?? Hot Japanese sisters maybe, diver????) ;)

great post dg, some interesting comments.

there does seem to be things sakura won't do (interracial, anal and dp - for example)

I'm not a big fan of the last two, but as a north american whitey, I'm still hoping for the first.

Thanks godzira!
Hey... yeah???? I've NEVER seen Sakura do anal (or dp or interacial).
I never really missed it before though (although white people porn should totally have it ALWAYS! IMO), because what is the point of anal with a super-tight Japanese girl?? I guess just the whole, that is all me up in yo azz girl, type of thing... hmmm...

Wow!!! That is pretty shocking she has never even done anal but has done beastiality!?!? WTF Sakura!?!?

Hahahaha don't sweat too much about the interracial thing though...
I think probably its more a case of supply-demand than any personal statement (like the anal/dp thing may be)...?
I think that Japanese porn made for the Japanese market (i.e. Japanese dudes) don't want to see white-guys stuffing their girls?? (If that is the target fetish why not just go a little further/larger and use huge black guys?)
Maybe I'm wrong about this though... What do you think??

I've never really seen Japanese made, white guy X Japanese girl porn... Although, I've heard that Moodyz (I think it was Moodyz??) goes to places like Shibuya or Roppongi every once in a while and tries to pick up a few white guys on the street for those 4 hour long badly-lit street comps that they release sometimes??

Well, this does beg the following question though, if you had the chance with Sakura now, would you dig in and go for it??
Even if she still smells and tastes like wet dog??

godzira

02-01-2007, 08:51 AM

I'd wear a few condoms, but I'd still hit it!
she's in my top 5 for sure.

eviltoon

02-01-2007, 04:28 PM

Well, this does beg the following question though, if you had the chance with Sakura now, would you dig in and go for it??
Even if she still smells and tastes like wet dog??

Are you kidding...IF the chance was there...Yup, yup, yup. Like godzira, not only is she in my top 5...she's a living breathing inspiration to me :p ...just love that nutter!

keebs

02-02-2007, 06:08 PM

I don't think I would. She is spoiled, in my eyes.:barf:

Superdopp12

02-02-2007, 06:44 PM

great post dg, some interesting comments.

there does seem to be things sakura won't do (interracial, anal and dp - for example)

She doesn't come across as a Picky person.

Not only is it unhealthy and disturbing but it could be quite dangerous too for her to do those things with animals.

hpdeskjetprinter

02-02-2007, 07:29 PM

I'm really surprised at what people can do

Mamba

02-07-2007, 02:47 PM

I guess I've been out of touch with the scene for too long. I'm still in the Akira Fubuki era and wasn't even aware of Sakura. I must say that I'm surprised by tone of most of the posts. Not the eewh! bestiality factor, it's certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but rather the genuine shock. Where have folks been? Japanese erotica has always had an large extreme component, at least since I started seeing it many years ago. There's been a flood of more mainstream content in the US the past few years but much of the rape, bondage, SM, scat and beast stuff has been much less available until the internet. I remember reading that the Cinemagic company planned to start exporting their 'Roman' SM series back in the 80s I think but the govt. pressured them not to - didn't want foreigners to see what many Japanese were really into.

In what little of the bestiality stuff I've seen, the girls are all the typical giggling 'schoolgirl' types and seem to be having a great time and think it's a joke. I suspect that the rape theme in the film mentioned is all acting and drama rather than real abuse, just like most of the SM type stuff. The actresses are professionals, doing a job - they're just way better actresses than most of their American/European counterparts. If you want a real cringe factor, it's all these American teens that get exploited on the rough sex sites that seem to be springing up daily. Despite their seeming submissiveness, I suspect that the Japanese girls, especially the more well known ones are much more mature, aware and in charge of their lives, though I'm sure there are exceptions.

Without trying to be snarky, I think some folks have taken the "Idol" concept a little to literally. I suppose I can understand being disappointed that your favorite actress isn't as pure as you might have hoped - Dakota Fanning's fans are scandalized that she did a rape scene in her latest film - now that is a bit of a shocker I'll admit. But really, if you put anyone on too high a pedestal, disappointment is sure to follow. I think it's also a mistake to judge the Japanese by American standards. It's an entirely different culture in terms of sexual attitudes. For that matter, most of the world is. Catholic Italy elected a porn star to parliment, one who did at least one scene with a horse in her acting career.

There's no need to conjure up sinister Yakuza plots or mental illness theories. Cut Sakura some slack. She's a grown woman doing a job she's good at and probably making a good living at as well and perhaps even, perish the thought, enjoying. If you want to stop watching her vids that's cool but beware. You never know which new idol you choose may turn out to be all to mortal as well.

SuperGogg

02-07-2007, 06:33 PM

i just find it a little hard to believe that these sort of things are more or less legal.

eviltoon

02-07-2007, 07:17 PM

Welcome to Scanlover Forum Mamba. Nice reply to one of the crazier threads on the forum. I have seen the Sakara film with the doggie a number of times :p , and yeah my initial thought that it was force is no longer my thought at all. She is acting all the way...even with the doggie. Sure she is probably not having the greatest day of her life, but she is a PROFESSIONAL and well she is going for it. That dog is getting into places most of us never will.
:bingo:Maybe she should run for parliament :beautiful:
(http://forum.scanlover.com/member.php?u=93204)

godzira

02-08-2007, 03:25 AM

I always knew of Japanese kinkiness - the thing that shocked me was that Sakura, an AV actress that was quite famous and popular - would do the beast thing.
I can't think of another pornstar at her level of fame that has done it.

The fact that those movies exist was not the surprise, seeing sakura in one was.

Jayz

02-08-2007, 08:42 AM

Wow...this really looks nasty :S...lucky i'm not eating anything while looking through these pages.

klanky

02-08-2007, 08:46 AM

Er...I hope for you guys that none of your favourite idols is in this list...:...:
http://www.gloryquest.co.jp/pc/rist/rist.cgi?janl=%8Fb%8A%AD
it's 3 pages click on the button at the bottom to change page

rb25

02-08-2007, 06:23 PM

eightcut

02-08-2007, 08:37 PM

keebs

02-08-2007, 10:12 PM

i'm a beastiality fan. i don't do it myself, but i watch it.

Here is the problem i have...

Why is it ok to cut animals up and eat them, but having sex with is so wrong?

Eating cow meat has nothing to do with surviving... Eat Potatoes, Salad, Candy, Beans, Corn, Bread, Peanut butter, Rice, Pizza, Poptarts, Cheese, Cereal and other such things.

We butcher cows nad deers along with other such animals and eat them and that makes me alot sicker than a women having sex with a dog. Not that i'm strictly a veggie person... But i can't understand how this is look down upon when much worse things are done to animals.

Not trying to offend anybody, just looking to see if somebody has an answer.

Well, us eating animals is just a part of nature. Evolution designed us to be a certain way, and we have been acting on that instinct for as long as there have been humans. And I could say the same thing to you: Eating Potatoes, Salad, Candy, Beans, Corn, Bread, Peanut butter, Rice, Pizza, Poptarts, Cheese, Cereal and other such things has nothing to do with surviving.....eat cow meat, and all the other types of meat as well. So, eating meat does, in fact, have everything to do with survival. I'm pretty sure I remember learning that the healthest people eat a even share of meat and veggies.

Blowing a dog, on the other hand, has absolutely nothing to do with survival, and can not, in any way, be remotely considered as necessary to survival.

I cannot find anything erotic about having sex with animals, but would like to hear what you find erotic about it. (I'm not being a dick, I'm really intrested in your opinion)

rb25

02-10-2007, 12:31 PM

Well, us eating animals is just a part of nature. Evolution designed us to be a certain way, and we have been acting on that instinct for as long as there have been humans. And I could say the same thing to you: Eating Potatoes, Salad, Candy, Beans, Corn, Bread, Peanut butter, Rice, Pizza, Poptarts, Cheese, Cereal and other such things has nothing to do with surviving.....eat cow meat, and all the other types of meat as well. So, eating meat does, in fact, have everything to do with survival. I'm pretty sure I remember learning that the healthest people eat a even share of meat and veggies.

Blowing a dog, on the other hand, has absolutely nothing to do with survival, and can not, in any way, be remotely considered as necessary to survival.

I cannot find anything erotic about having sex with animals, but would like to hear what you find erotic about it. (I'm not being a dick, I'm really intrested in your opinion)

Alot of people don't eat meat... So is it really instinct? Eating meat isn't part of survival because you can live without it. The planet couldn't live without sex because the world would after a while not exsist. You got to have water and air or you will die.

I'm not anti meat.... I'm just saying that chopping animals up with axes and stuff when it's not a must is alot more brutal than having sex with an animal.
I'm not saying everybody should have sex with animals. But I'm saying it should be legal and people should accept that some of us find it erotic.

I'm tired of beasty fans being stereotyped into being trailer park rednecks. Obviousally the chicks posted about in this thread aren't rednecks, and I've never lived in a trailer myself.

I can accept some that this is sort of new to alot of people. I think that if it becomes more mainstream it wouldn't be as big of a deal. I also believe more people find this erotic than they let on.

I've posted on beasty boards. Some of those sites get extreme amounts of hits. Which says to me that more than just a few people find this erotic. Alot of people will not admit it though.. The same way that alot of people claim to be turned off by IR (In america anyway) but it's a hot seller.

I know from experience. I was raised in a racist family, but I've caught several members(who are self proclaimed rednecks) watching IR. It's just funny because alot of people in this world are hypocrites.

But all and all, I'm not attacking everybody that doesn't like beastiality... I'm ticked at the people that have to tell me over and over how sick it is when they're in fact eating meat.

Sorry, I can't see how having sex with animals is worse than butchering and eating them.

What do I like about it... Well, I like all kinds of porn. My main likes include:

Beastiality
IR
lesbian
bi-sexual
shemales

All of which I wouldn't actually do myself. Some stuff I just like to watch. I don't enjoy crap eating, golden showers, abuse and I simply will not watch anything with underaged children. That's the biggest no no of all.

Animals, it's part fanasy about being sexually involved with something that isn't human. Also, animals(unless you harm them) will usally love you longer than a wife or husband will. Love and loyality is easily thrown around these days when it shouldn't be.

Also, like people.... Some dogs are just beautiful and can actually be understanding. Dogs understand more than people think. My dog understands when I'm sick or hurt.... She can't talk, but she has her way of letting me know she is concerned. 90% of the time I can read her wants and needs.

She has treated be way better than humans do. Humans these days are rotten. Morals wise, I find it very disturbing how hard it is for people to be nice to one another. Maybe it's just this way in america, I don't know. But humans are very hostile creatures nowdays.

Back to the sex part... I've never been aggressive to an animal sex wise, but I've noticed that it looks like a pretty good experience when the dog is into it. I don't agree with tying them down and using them for dildo's when they're clearly not interested. Infact, I have seen alot of video's posted in this thread and for the most part the woman looks interested and the dog does sometimes aswell.

I didn't download the video of the women the thread is titled about because from the pictures it doesn't look like her or the dog is enjoying it. I've seen pictures of this women and find her extremly hot. But I don't want to see forced stuff.

On a personal note, as I've said, I've never been aggressive with a dog.
But I like to watch... So I just watch the movies. My favorite part is oral. I love to watch women perform on male dogs. You can say alot of it is being curious, and I find some of male dogs dicks not to terrible on the eyes. Some of them look a little different... It depends on the breed and stuff.

It's not something I see myself doing, but I have no problems with anybody that does it(unless they're forcing it on the animal) and I like to watch. The chances of me actually doing this myself are slim to none.

"I think it is a matter of what most people consider basic decency. Consuming meat is something we are born into accepting. Using animals for sex is repulsive to the vast majority of people."

A black man being with a white women was also repulsive to most people just a few decades ago in america. Not everybody gets involved in IR relationships, but most seem to approve of it now. So, just because most people find it indecent, that doesn't make it true.

I understand some.... I mean, when I first heard of this I was shocked and repulsed, but had that little part of me that found the idea exciting also. Truthfully, we aren't totally unlike animals.... Part of the human brain is actually animal.

Superdopp12

02-10-2007, 07:46 PM

Cows and other animals are killed instantly before they are cut up, cooked and ate.

The animals in the porn video does not have this luxury.

eviltoon

02-10-2007, 08:11 PM

Cows and other animals are killed instantly before they are cut up, cooked and ate.

The animals in the porn video does not have this luxury.

Interesting tangent...cutting up and killing animals in a bestaility video would certainly put a different spin on things. Kind of introduce a whole new audience :p

as an aside, I still really like the Bug (http://forum.scanlover.com/showthread.php?t=8312&highlight=bug+eater) Eater video...but I'm not sure it's considered besiality. I mean she is having sex with lots of bugs all over her and she is eating them throughout, but I don't think she is having sex (technically speaking) with the bugs. But she is certainly killing them, but then again she is eating them alive...so it's pretty complex stuff. Then again, there's probably a difference between killing and fucking doggies and killing and have sex with thousands of bugs. :puzzled:

DG Syndrome

02-11-2007, 09:31 AM

I'm not trying to be an ass here, but this seems pretty misguided...?
Please don't take it as a personal attack, simply an honest response (I thought because you took the time to give a long and thorough response, hopefully you would not mind a longish reply?)

Alot of people don't eat meat... So is it really instinct? Eating meat isn't part of survival because you can live without it. The planet couldn't live without sex because the world would after a while not exsist. You got to have water and air or you will die.

Of course, it is instrinct to eat meat...
There are specific enzymatic reactions in a human body that only digesting meat can trigger (for example, you can simulate proper intakes of the things you need to eat without ever eating meat, but there is internal chemistry that your body is specifically built to use, which eating these other things as a substitute will never utilize).

And of course the planet could live without sex!?
I think if you even simply went by % of living things on the planet that produce without sex (e.g. single-celled paramecia crawling through your glass of water right now), and if suddenly nothing could have sex anymore, only a VERY small percentage of living things on the earth would die out...
It may be a world full of reptiles, slugs, and amoeba, but the world would still be quite full even with no more sex!!!

And for that matter, humans don't really need to have sex anymore, with In Vitro Fertilization advances, there doesn't even have to be a man involved anymore (they can take DNA directly from a woman's regular cells and put it into an egg cell in another woman and cut the dude out of the picture entirely).
:abandoned:

I'm not anti meat.... I'm just saying that chopping animals up with axes and stuff when it's not a must is alot more brutal than having sex with an animal.
I'm not saying everybody should have sex with animals. But I'm saying it should be legal and people should accept that some of us find it erotic.

But all and all, I'm not attacking everybody that doesn't like beastiality... I'm ticked at the people that have to tell me over and over how sick it is when they're in fact eating meat.

Sorry, I can't see how having sex with animals is worse than butchering and eating them.

I think most normal people would not necessarily put this stuff on a SINGLE continium...
For example, you seem to feel these are somehow related, like perhaps at the positive end there is patting dog on the head and at the other negative end there is killing, carving, and eating a dog (with fucking it falling somewhere in the middle?).
I think most people would consider these to be very seperate things (not even in the same continium at all), killing and fucking are not naturally related. (I'd say it takes a fetish for most people to be able to connect them together at all)

So, to say that because we chop up animals and eat them, why is having sex with them so bad, is sort of going outside what would be considered a healthy line of reason... For example, I think most (healthy) people don't think to themselves, well I would like to eat that lady, but I'll just have sex with her instead because it is not really as bad as eating her! (I bet that some people who don't differentiate these as completely urrelated things are probably prone to devolving into cannibals, serial killers, etc.)

All of which I wouldn't actually do myself. Some stuff I just like to watch. I don't enjoy crap eating, golden showers, abuse and I simply will not watch anything with underaged children. That's the biggest no no of all.

I'm always surprised that people who are bestiality fans are usually so ardently against scat and especially pedo stuff...??? (Like it is somehow a justification... "Well, I like beastiality but at least I don't like child porn!")
In my PERSONAL opinion, beastiality is far more offensive than child porn...

Humans these days are rotten. Morals wise, I find it very disturbing how hard it is for people to be nice to one another. Maybe it's just this way in america, I don't know. But humans are very hostile creatures nowdays.

I hear this from people sometimes, but I'm not really sure what it actually means?? When were humans not hostile creatures?? I think historically humans have always been so conflictive (if not more) and it is simply part of what we are...
:angry:

I didn't download the video of the women the thread is titled about because from the pictures it doesn't look like her or the dog is enjoying it. I've seen pictures of this women and find her extremly hot. But I don't want to see forced stuff.

On a personal note, as I've said, I've never been aggressive with a dog.
But I like to watch... So I just watch the movies. My favorite part is oral. I love to watch women perform on male dogs. You can say alot of it is being curious, and I find some of male dogs dicks not to terrible on the eyes. Some of them look a little different... It depends on the breed and stuff.

I also didn't download the video, but for pretty much the opposite reason!?
I'm a big fan of Sakura (and I don't have any problem with watching rape as long as it is simulated), but I really don't want to see some dog's ugly lumpy red dick... In the screen caps, it looked incredibly revolting!!
:barf:

"I think it is a matter of what most people consider basic decency. Consuming meat is something we are born into accepting. Using animals for sex is repulsive to the vast majority of people."

A black man being with a white women was also repulsive to most people just a few decades ago in america. Not everybody gets involved in IR relationships, but most seem to approve of it now. So, just because most people find it indecent, that doesn't make it true.

I think maybe you are missing the point of what he said...? This is not about "Americans", it is actually more about "humans" (speaking from the far more vast perspective in which you could total information and results from all cultures that eat meat or get it on with animals, and then look at the results to see what it shows about humanity at large).

I understand some.... I mean, when I first heard of this I was shocked and repulsed, but had that little part of me that found the idea exciting also. Truthfully, we aren't totally unlike animals.... Part of the human brain is actually animal.

I gotta say, I'm thinking the part of the human brain you are talking about here is the part that makes it good to eat meat ;)

rb25

02-11-2007, 01:40 PM

And of course the planet could live without sex!?
I think if you even simply went by % of living things on the planet that produce without sex (e.g. single-celled paramecia crawling through your glass of water right now), and if suddenly nothing could have sex anymore, only a VERY small percentage of living things on the earth would die out...
It may be a world full of reptiles, slugs, and amoeba, but the world would still be quite full even with no more sex!!!

And for that matter, humans don't really need to have sex anymore, with In Vitro Fertilization advances, there doesn't even have to be a man involved anymore (they can take DNA directly from a woman's regular cells and put it into an egg cell in another woman and cut the dude out of the picture entirely)."

I understand what you're trying to say, but I think if given the choice to never eat meat again or never have sex again I think they'd go with sex. In fact, I believe that's why so many relationships fail these days. Because they're built around sex.

"I think most normal people would not necessarily put this stuff on a SINGLE continium..."

Well people like to pick n choose. Humans are very hypocritical creatures. On the subject of morals, I just can't see how having sex with something is worse than killing it.

"I'm always surprised that people who are bestiality fans are usually so ardently against scat and especially pedo stuff...??? (Like it is somehow a justification... "Well, I like beastiality but at least I don't like child porn!")
In my PERSONAL opinion, beastiality is far more offensive than child porn..."

I'm not saying it that way it all. Beast porn is nowhere near the same as child porn. Animals have sex on instinct... How many 8 year olds do you know that even think about sex. Animals like to have sex(My dog is very young and tries to hump basically everything) and children are innocent and don't even understand what sex is.

Animals and children are NOT innocent the same way. Animals have sex and children don't.

You can get alot of dieases from eating crap. I think there is a few out there you can probably get from being sexually active with a dog. But I'd take my chances with dog before I would eating crap. Did you know that dog Saliva is cleaner than humans. Despite all the showers us humans take, we are still some of the most nasty creatures.

(My question mark button is sticking and that's why I'm using periods)

"
I hear this from people sometimes, but I'm not really sure what it actually means?? When were humans not hostile creatures?? I think historically humans have always been so conflictive (if not more) and it is simply part of what we are..."

It appears to ahve got worse. ESP here in the US. There were times when kids would fight it out with fists. Now, hearing about school shootings is very normal here in america. The violence has trickled down to children.

"I'm a big fan of Sakura (and I don't have any problem with watching rape as long as it is simulated), but I really don't want to see some dog's ugly lumpy red dick... In the screen caps, it looked incredibly revolting!!"

Well I find the thought of rape (even pretend) to be more revolting simply because even the thought of people being held againest their will really bothers me. Rape suggest a mindset of somebody harming another person.

The beastiality I watch suggests nothing of the sort. The Sakura video suggests a harmful act (even if it isn't) and so I don't download it. Not saying you're wrong, just telling you how it effects me differently from you.

To me the basic thing about sex (moral wise) is not to be harmful to other people. I think most people agree that harming another person or thing is bad. After that, people pick and choose. The problem gets to be is when you tell others they're wrong and you're right.

I mean, did you think about simulated rape scenes when you were 8 years old. You had to grow up to get into it. People pick in choose. The only time I'm going to tell somebody they're flat out wrong is if they're harmful to other people or animals. That's the basics of right and wrong that should apply to everybody.

keebs

02-12-2007, 08:10 PM

Poochy

02-12-2007, 08:52 PM

While the last few posts have been very interesting in terms of explaining why someone would or would not be interested in bestiality, I sense things are getting a bit off-topic. We should really be discussing issues that pertain directly to Sakura, as this is her actress-specific thread.

If there is still an interest in continuing the general why/why not discussion, perhaps it can be moved over to its own thread, or more appropriately, into the Conclave.

eviltoon

02-12-2007, 09:35 PM

Agreed. Interesting though, this conversation back and forth has morphed to such an extent that I too feel many of the recent posts could be sent to conclave...but what's the topic!!! Besiality, vegetarianism versus meat eaters, SPCA :p ...

Poochy, let's give it some thought and maybe send some of these posts over...I'll let it sit for a while...especially since I am at work.

keebs

02-12-2007, 10:02 PM

rb25

02-13-2007, 06:49 AM

Saying eating meat isn't part nature or instict is silly. Your contention that people don't need to eat meat is really a moot point, because the same logic could be applied to eating veggies. Nature and evolution intended us to be able to eat anything we can, we're built that way. The only argument vegetarians can go on is the moral one.

That is the only point I'm debating you on. If you like beastie movies, more power to you, I just can't see what about themis attractive. I hope you don't think I'm trying to attack you, or be mean.

All I can say is what I told you. I've taken worse attacks. My sister thinks I watch this stuff because she thinks I like to see this women get degraded.

About Sakura... She looks great. I think she'd go over well in american porn. Don't know if you guys have her of her, but Mika Tan is one of my favorites.=)

fazole

02-13-2007, 09:41 AM

Don't know for sure, but as the average career of an AV Idol lasts about two years and the fact that she's getting older; she may have decided to do this to stay on the scene. Also, for something this perverted she must have been paid well. Also as weird as this is, is it any worse than being bound with rough ropes on your crotch, being whipped and having hot wax poured on you? Quite a few AVs do that.

keebs

02-13-2007, 02:41 PM

All I can say is what I told you. I've taken worse attacks. My sister thinks I watch this stuff because she thinks I like to see this women get degraded.

About Sakura... She looks great. I think she'd go over well in american porn. Don't know if you guys have her of her, but Mika Tan is one of my favorites.=)

Who's attacking you? I don't care if you watch beastie movies, what gets you going is good for you. I disagree with your statements about eating meat, not if you like watching chicks blow dogs.

eviltoon

02-13-2007, 07:04 PM

Keebs and rb25...I am going to ask you two to play nice, okay. Stop with the bantering back and forth. Sakura is still who she is and the eating habits of humanity are not needed here anymore. Let's get back on track.

Thanks, Eviltoon

keebs

02-13-2007, 10:31 PM

um, ok. I didn't think we were being mean to each other.

rb25

02-16-2007, 09:10 AM

Who's attacking you? I don't care if you watch beastie movies, what gets you going is good for you. I disagree with your statements about eating meat, not if you like watching chicks blow dogs.

I just meant that people have came at me alot tougher.

Anyway, I'm going on be on the lookout for this chick. Being really hot and freaky is a great combo.

calad

02-16-2007, 07:29 PM

i mean..i dun get it wads so appealing to this kind of vids..looks too sick for me T.T..can they really make money for it?

rb25

03-04-2007, 06:13 PM

i mean..i dun get it wads so appealing to this kind of vids..looks too sick for me T.T..can they really make money for it?

What's so appealing? Beastiality is hot as h*ll to watch. No when it's dudes though. Even though I'm bi-sexual, I only want to see chicks with dogs. Plus, it's kinky. I can't even watch vanilla porn anymore. It's too boring... Doesn't press any buttons.

Mamba

03-12-2007, 07:44 PM

Well, for 'famous,' I don't know about Japan but Linda Lovelace of Deep Throat fame did a K9 flick. She later claimed that she was forced but if so, she deserved an Academy Award for acting under pressure. Another 80's porn actress whose name escapes me did several beasty vids and I've heard of one of the current crop of American porn demi starlets whose done at least one. I suspect that there are more.

American sexual mores/laws are as schizophrenic as Japan's censorship. You can stick 4 fingers into a vagina but put in the thumb (i.e. fisting) and beware. Bondage is OK and sex is OK but mix the two and you're asking for trouble in many parts of the US. As someone mentioned earlier, interracial sex, especially BM/WF is still an unwritten taboo in some areas. Some American fans might be surprised at the things their faves do in films that are distributed only in Europe, where fisting, SM, golden showers etc. are much more accepted.

It would be interesting to read some Japanese AV blogs/articles to see how they reacted to Sakura's forays into less "mainstream" territory. I'm sure some of her fans over there are just as disappointed but since bestiality is legal and apparently more accepted in Japan, perhaps the push back was less intense and widespread than that from American fans.

As for the humane aspects of such films, I read once that some of the "butter dogs" were suffering ill effects from licking too much dairy off the girls so they switched to yogurt or whatever they're using now. In most of the professionally made videos, the dogs seem to be indifferent though I don't know if that equates to their being abused. There are certainly amateur films (probably made with owners and their dogs) where the dogs appear to be anything but reluctant. Like everything else, a lot depends on the circumstances. If a dog is humping his mistress' leg and she bends over and lets him have sex with her is she abusing him? Is it worse than hitching him to a sled and having him pull you around? Damned if I know. In Asia, they eat dogs and lop the tops off the heads of live monkeys to eat their brains. Hindus are appalled at our eating cows, ditto Muslims/orthodox Jews and pork. I'm not trying to denigrate anyone's views on animal welfare, being an animal lover myself, but I think it's perhaps in some cases, it's difficult to separate that out from the reaction to the extreme cultural taboo of bestiality.

At any rate, someone here must know Japanese and she must have a fan club, so write her and ask :-)

Timbo

03-12-2007, 09:32 PM

Didn't Sakura do a JAV with her father-in-law?

Poochy

03-12-2007, 10:10 PM

Didn't Sakura do a JAV with her father-in-law?
I think that was Akane Hotaru, as per this thread (http://forum.scanlover.com/showthread.php?t=10150). Though I would not be surprised the least bit if it turned out Sakura did something similar as well.

Mamba

03-15-2007, 03:58 AM

Ran across this old thread at JAVTalk. Pretty much the same discussion but some other names mentioned thouigh.

http://www.javtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6491&start=0&p=61060&#entry61060

Ordell

03-15-2007, 03:46 PM

I don't get it. Sakurada is cute. She doesn't need to do this crap, no pun intended. Is she a mental case or something?

keebs

03-15-2007, 05:07 PM

Didn't Sakura do a JAV with her father-in-law?

I think she did one with her mother.

eviltoon

03-15-2007, 05:17 PM

I don't get it. Sakurada is cute. She doesn't need to do this crap, no pun intended. Is she a mental case or something?

Oh, I don't think she is a mental case...probably just really unstable. And that is why I love her so much, just love ustable women. You just never, ever know what's going to happen next!:giveup:

keebs

03-15-2007, 09:06 PM

Trust me, the first time she pulls a knife on you, that "unstable" shit goes right out the window.