Someone please help me on LOVE.

[The Demon Lord]

I am a very very shy guy, not so handsome and a bit big. Sound like an otaku huh??

I've meet this girl in FB. I chat with her a few days then I got her phone number. Right after that, I keep massaging her everyday, and she replied my text.. In my text, I keep said sorry if i make her uncomfortable.
One day, she told me about she want a teddy bear, so I said to her that I can buy her one, but she said she could make bother me. I keep pushing so that I can give her one, and she agreed.

The next day, I bought the teddy bear and we agreed to meet up. That time I was accompanied by my best friend as I am too shy. So, she went out from her house and I go to her alone and give the bear to her. I was totally in shock as she is so beautiful. I can't say a word, but I said to her "do you mind to have a drink with me at the nearest restaurant". She agreed. We went there with my friend as I'm too shy to talk to her. The session only took 15 mins and most of the time is my friend talk to her.

I sent her back to her home. And soon after that, she text me said thanks for the bear. Days counting, I keep regularly texting her. I keep be kind to her and said if she need anything i can get for her, she replyed with "you are too kind, i dont want to troublesome you".

And this is the shocking I have seen, she post on her FB said "I only need myself not you, so KEEP OFF". I think she said that to me. I scared to ask her but I keep texting her. She replayed every of my text.

Suddenly, I cant hold it longer, and I said I like her very much. But she suddenly stunned and laughing politely, she said she is scared if she broke my heart. I cant say a word.

She keep put up a comment on my friends FB but not me. I think she is more comfortable with my friends on FB not me. And I think she keep texting me because I give her the teddy bear.

[mad_z]

You had the opportunity and you might have lost it.

Don't be shy. There's nothing to lose in life. If she rejects you, then she rejects you. It doesn't mean anything bad. However, you HAVE to be more assertive or she'll lose interest fast. Going to go see her with a friend was a terrible idea. Constantly messaging her is also bad. CALL HER and set up another date. Just ask her a bunch of questions. Really get to know her, and you should be fine. Or go see a movie and talk about the movie afterwards if you're not comfortable talking to her about regular stuff.

For next time (because it really seems like it's too late)

CUT YOUR FRIEND OUT
CALL HER FOR A DATE
TALK TO HER ON THE DATE
DON'T MSG/CALL HER ALL THE TIME AFTERWARDS

[ookami69]

I feel for you dude. Actually I just had a girl who seemed really cool flake on me too. She seemed really into me, but I screwed it up somewhere. If anything my failing was I was too into her. If I value a girl too much too early, it often messes up my game. But I'm old enough to know I'll bounce back and do better with the next girl. Live and learn!

But back to you. First off, try not to get hung up on one girl. If you put her on a pedestal, it makes it very difficult to get her.

As for how you approached this girl, remember, it is possible to be too nice. Contrary to popular belief, girls actually do like guys who are nice (as opposed to 'nice guys'); but more importantly you have to seem fun and appear confident. Confidence is very attractive to the vast majority of women. So if you keep saying "sorry if I make you uncomfortable", that's a no no. You're showing you're not confident in yourself, and you are also projecting that you think you are beneath her. If you want to convince her that you are good enough for her, you have to believe it yourself.

Also, try not to pressure a girl to do anything, including allowing you to buy her gifts. If she ever resists anything you do, first back off, work on making her attracted to you and feel comfortable with you, then try again.

Also, as a general rule, I would advise not buying girls anything early in the courtship phase. She'll just end up using you. If you do buy her something, don't make it out like it's a grand gesture.

The next time you go on a date, don't bring along a friend unless she also brings a friend. If you are on your own, it will force you to push through your shyness and interact with her yourself. Once you start talking with her, you will become more confident and less shy.

Finally, I think you should stop texting this girl and move on. If you keep contacting her, she will start to get annoyed with you and she will try to avoid you. You will only get hurt more. I know rejection is painfull, but you still have some control in this situation. Take charge and choose to end the communication, and it will be less painful and you'll get over it more quickly. And you know what, this is your best and only hope of ever getting her. Either she won't care that you stopped texting her, in which case you never had a shot anyways, or else she'll wonder why you left and might even start missing you. Just don't be the one to text first. Have her chase you.

Good luck!

[OldiesLover]

My suggestion: Do not use your text function, for any reason whatsoever... for the next full year, 2010. Only talk on the phone or in-person. Period.

You obviously need to work on your communication skills, and your constant texting isn't helping you out one damn bit.
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[The Demon Lord]

thank you to mad z, ookami69 and oldieslover..!!

You know what, mad z told me to call her and set another date, and the AGREE..!! woohoo..!! Thank you mad z..!!



ookami69, you are really helping me on this, you said :

"Either she won't care that you stopped texting her, in which case you never had a shot anyways, or else she'll wonder why you left and might even start missing you. Just don't be the one to text first. Have her chase you."

and... it really works..!! i keep ignore her massage, and she always massage me, asking " U...." "U there..." "hellooooo....."
Thank you ookami69...!!!



oldieslover, you are 100% right, i really need to work on my communication skills... Do you have idea how to talk to girls??
Thank you oldieslver..!!

[mad_z]

First thing is really not to get intimidated. You do have male friends, right?

Talk to them about interesting stuff. Like I said, go see a movie and talk about it afterwards. Go eat something and discuss favourite foods, restaurants, etc.

If you get scared, you're going to come off weird and strange and freak her out.

Also, NO MORE GIFTS.

Go on the date, and offer to pay, of course. But do not give her anymore gifts. If she's your girlfriend, then it's ok. If she's not, don't waste your money. You don't want to buy her love, and shows desperation. I guess flowers are ok, but nothing material otherwise.

[Rion]

Just "close" man. "Close" her. if not, move to next one. Tonnes of females on Earth. females loves bad boys.

[redeux]

just a word of caution , a friend had an ex gf accuse him of sending threats , fbi shows up , takes all his computer equipment and spent 6+ months getting it back to him saying "well shit man, i guess we gots to let you walk cause the bitch was lying"...(or words to that effect)
no fookin woman is worth the grief and bullshit anymore , this guy now has a permanent fbi file on him because this pos ho' decided to fark with him...
ruins his chances for a passport / scholarships / gvt employment , etc...
to top it off they won't jail the ho' cause shes a 'protected species'...
nope , no woe2man is worth it anymore , don't care who it is ...

[RYU HAYABUSA]

One thing I have noticed is that some very hot chicks tend to act stupid. Not all, but some. Sometimes I can just see the desperation of them trying to get every guy to notice them. Sometimes hot chicks act more weird than otaku in my opinion. They have bad communication and scare me away sometimes. A lot tend to act very mean too. That being said, they aren't better than you Demon Lord, if that's how you feel at this point. Some of them expect you to just drool over them, but some hate it. Don't lose your dignity if she is that type of chick, but definitely loosen up.

My game at picking up chicks is weak as hell, so you're not alone, but somehow have a natural ability to get into a conversation with a chick somehow. It's mystery. Just ask her one thing like what kind of TV shows she likes, she will give you one answer, and build upon that. It's all you need. She may say she hates TV and likes books, so comment on that. You don't have to go a whole mile.

If you're nervous as hell and it shows, you may as well not hide it and tell her that you're not used to that sort of thing. It won't help if you're acting very odd and she can't figure out why. Better than trying to play it off and make yourself seem more foolish.

Pay special attention to everybody else's tips they are very good. Ookami is especially a good post. I've seen quite a few of my friends out in the country put serious value on new gf they had gotten. Too much value. Over emotional crazy chicks that needed mental help rather than a boyfriend.

[qwerty1984]

just a word of caution , a friend had an ex gf accuse him of sending threats , fbi shows up , takes all his computer equipment and spent 6+ months getting it back to him saying "well shit man, i guess we gots to let you walk cause the bitch was lying"...(or words to that effect)
no fookin woman is worth the grief and bullshit anymore , this guy now has a permanent fbi file on him because this pos ho' decided to fark with him...
ruins his chances for a passport / scholarships / gvt employment , etc...
to top it off they won't jail the ho' cause shes a 'protected species'...
nope , no woe2man is worth it anymore , don't care who it is ...

what do u mean by protected species? your friend wasnt dating a panda bear was he?

[OldiesLover]

oldieslover, you are 100% right, i really need to work on my communication skills... Do you have idea how to talk to girls??
Thank you oldieslver..!!

Well, for the last 50+ years... I just talk to them. If you try to put up some sort of facade or image other than who you are, you're just going to be exposed as a fraud down the road, so why screw around? Just be yourself, and if the babe doesn't like you... fuck'em.

For the most part, I've found that people who are shy with a supposed communication problem (Note, I'm not talking about people who are naturally quiet, or like me... go through quiet times.)... really have some deeper more engrained problems. It's best to figure out what those issues are... and start doing something about it.

If you're fat(?), do something about it. If you're not the most handsome fellow around(?), then figure out how you can accent your positives. Develop a personal style that you're comfortable with. I know a bunch of handsome dudes who are complete clowns. Besides, intelligence and being smart can overcome alotta physical handicaps.

Try developing your self confidence, with a strong dose of self respect. Babes can see through the clowns of this World. (Note, unless the babe is even stupider.)

I hope this makes sense to ya.

[RYU HAYABUSA]

Try developing your self confidence, with a strong dose of self respect. Babes can see through the clowns of this World. (Note, unless the babe is even stupider.)

I hope this makes sense to ya.

You're on the money with this passage oldies. I would be scared if I picked up a chick being a complete dick. Like what may this chick be like. It's why I stay away from a lot of the young chicks in my area because a lot of them (not all) are stupider than the clowns they go out with. Never lower your class to please a chick.

I remember when I a girl told me after I had left the school campus that she liked me. She was dating douchebags and guys that treated her bad. Maybe she didn't feel like she was good enough to be treated well or maybe I wasn't cool enough (bad enough in actuality) for her. You may be in that situation. Sometimes the good guys just have to move on. :exhausted:

If you're self conscious about yourself kill that fast. I know I'm still conquering that. Self consciousness will always hold you back because you're always thinking about how you will look. It ties right into what oldies is saying about self confidence.

[redeux]

what do u mean by protected species? your friend wasnt dating a panda bear was he?

female/minority/illegal alien/psycho/etc...
all the rights/privileges/benefits/w/o any accountability for her criminal actions...

[cice]

http://www.theattractionforums.com/

[kawaiineko]

"Either she won't care that you stopped texting her, in which case you never had a shot anyways, or else she'll wonder why you left and might even start missing you. Just don't be the one to text first. Have her chase you."

and... it really works..!! i keep ignore her massage, and she always massage me, asking " U...." "U there..." "hellooooo....."
Thank you ookami69...!!!



okay I think you are ready now....go for ittttttt. Next time you see her, pull down your pants, show her your LOVE *ahem* and do the dirty deed!!! GYABO!!! BE CONFIDENT!! You can doooooo it!!!


Um... the above was joke... the last thing I want to see is a post "Kawaiineko told me to bang her....and now my relationship is ruined...ruined I say!! booohooo" hehehe :cry:


Just do what the others said. Relax be yourself. Go do natural things. Talk about natural things. Be comfortable and she will be too.

-or-

You can use Zapp Brannigan's pick-up line in the Futurama cartoon "You know, I find the most erotic part of a woman is the boobies"

[The Demon Lord]

I'm sorry for replying very very late. And a big thank you to you guys in helping me..!!

Our date last week for me was totally FAIL. This is how it goes:

She set the date and time. She also said she want to buy things for her daily usage. I went to her house to pick-up her and we straight went to our destination - a typical shopping center, but one of the best in my country -.

In the car I was like a wood, i can't say a single word. But she do ask me some questions, i answered it. Soon, we reach our destination, and I find the parking and off we go into the mall. She ask me what to do first, i tell her to get her things first, then we walk around the mall.

We enter a shop and she buys her things, i try to be a gentlemen, by carrying her things, and she said 'you ok? carrying those things for me' and i replayed 'i'm ok' .

Then we off to another store, find more of her things, and i still want to be a gentlemen by carrying her things. During that time i still can't say any word, still like a wood! haha

Soon, after buying her things, we put all of it inside the car and went back in the mall. She ask me, want to get something to eat, and i said "sure". we decided to eat at this shop. She ordered a fried chicken and me a grill chicken. I was still speechless, still like a wood. Total silent .

we eat and soon, I realize that she don't eat vegetables and mash potatoes. I was 'oh shit, she dont like the meal, damn, what should i do' but still i keep silent.

After the meal, we went to see the cinema but the line was too long and she need to go back early (not that early). We decided to go back, and i send her back home.

Soon, she text me said, she is sorry because she cant spend with me longer. i replied, 'I'm also sorry because I am such a boring person and the meal was bad'. she said 'it is ok'


This is what make my heart broken:

We text everyday, and this very day, she said to me 'we text in skype', i agree. i add her and i read her profile, there was her myspace.

I open it and i saw, that she is belong to someone. I was in total shock, i feel that I want to cry!

But I ask her who is 'this' guy. and she replied that is her 'ex'. but i saw the date 'last online' was last week..!! i keep asking her, is he really her 'ex' and she said yes. she ask me do i trust her, i said 'i trust you 100%'.

She said that she have some problem with him, and broke up. I was like 'Oh shit, is me the one destroying her relationship' She said to me lets forget is things and I agree as I don't want to hurt her more.


Do you guys have some tip for me?? please!!

[wemic]

Well, I have to say I think you may be getting played. I know you like this girl but she has already said she doesn't want to spend time with you but you continue to text with her. While communication is fine, it seems you want more out of the relationship than she does at this point. Obviously, I don't know the girl but I think for now you should back off a bit and see what, if anything, develops. In the meantime, keep your options open. There are other girls out there.

[ookami69]

First off, I think you should move on from this girl. It's turning into a poisonous situation, and if she told you she can't spend time with you any longer, that's pretty much the end of it.


She set the date and time. She also said she want to buy things for her daily usage.

Generally it's better if you set-up the date. That way she feels she's investing time with you, and the more someone invests in something, the more likely they will want to follow through with their investment. The way your date was set up, it's just like you're tagging along with her. It's OK to agree to go shopping with her, but I would try to reframe the date by saying I wanted to do some shopping too, so let's go together, as opposed to just tagging along while she shops.

In the car I was like a wood, i can't say a single word. But she do ask me some questions, i answered it.

You have to work on your social skills and be entertaining. Make her laugh.

We enter a shop and she buys her things, i try to be a gentlemen, by carrying her things, and she said 'you ok? carrying those things for me' and i replayed 'i'm ok' .

There's a difference between being a gentlemen and being a servent. You want her to see you as a high value guy. By acting like her servent, you're acting like she is of higher value than you. That makes you unattractive to her. If she has lots of bags, you can help her carry some, but don't act like her mule. If you go shopping with your friends, do you carry their bags for them? I hope not. But if they have too many bags, then I'm sure you'd help them. Act the same with your date.

we eat and soon, I realize that she don't eat vegetables and mash potatoes. I was 'oh shit, she dont like the meal, damn, what should i do' but still i keep silent.

Well, it's not good if she doesn't like her meal, but it's not your fault, so don't worry about it. This is why you need to develop your social skills. If you're having a good time, laughing, then she will enjoy herself even if the food is not good. Maybe you could tease her about not eating her vegetables.

i replied, 'I'm also sorry because I am such a boring person and the meal was bad'. she said 'it is ok'

You apologize too much. Don't be sorry for being you. I'm sure you're a great guy, you just need to improve your social skills, and raise your self-esteem. And if she didn't like her meal, that's not your fault at all. As a general rule, never apologize, it lowers your perceived value in relation to the person you apologize to. Of course there are times to say sorry, like if you accidently step on her foot or something like that. If you feel like apologizing, first ask yourself, "If I don't apologize, will I look like a jerk." If the answer is yes, apologize; if the answer is no, then don't apologize.

But I ask her who is 'this' guy. and she replied that is her 'ex'. but i saw the date 'last online' was last week..!! i keep asking her, is he really her 'ex' and she said yes. she ask me do i trust her, i said 'i trust you 100%'.

Well, since she already said she doesn't want to see you again, there's no sense worrying about her being with other guys. Since I don't know her, I have no idea if she is telling the truth or not. They may have broken up a while ago, but still talk from time to time. Or maybe this girl is not worth trusting.

She said that she have some problem with him, and broke up. I was like 'Oh shit, is me the one destroying her relationship' She said to me lets forget is things and I agree as I don't want to hurt her more.

Whatever her problems are with this other guy, it is not your fault! If she is seeing other guys behind her boyfriend's back, then that is 100% her problem.


So forget about this girl and move forward. At least you tried, so good for you! And I hope you learned some things about yourself, and women. If you did, then this experience will be worthwhile in the long run. It takes time to develop a skill, including how to court a woman, so don't be discouraged! I used to be horrible at courtship myself. I was super shy. When I did get dates, I'd quickly get put in the "friendzone". I'd do stuff like offer to carry a girl's bags like you did, thinking I was a gentlemen, and that's what girls wanted. But I've always tried to learn from my experiences, and I've continued to get better, so if you keep trying to improve yourself, you will continue to be more successful at relationships too!

I think your two main problems is that you have low self-esteem and you need to improve your social skills. If you improve your social skills, your self esteem will also grow, so concentrate on being a fun, interesting person to be around.

So how do you do that? Well, I think Oldieslover's suggestion about not texting/emailing, but rather speaking on the phone is a good idea. Also, to give yourself interesting things to talk about, try to have an interesting life. Pick-up a new, exciting hobby, go out, be active. Not only will this make you a more interesting person, you will also have oppurtunities to meet other people, which will improve your social skills, and it will grow your social network, which means more oppurtunities to do fun stuff, which leads to a more interesting life!

[RYU HAYABUSA]

I can see that members like Ookami have put quite an effort into helping you this really is great info. And seriously use this info it will only help you. I have to agree with Ookami you have tried. You're in a better position than me.

I am 22 years old and I have never had a gf or even kissed one, but that's because I'm an interesting fellow. I don't really have trouble with women, I fool myself into thinking I do to avoid failure and embarrassment, but tend to do fine when just stop acting retarded:evillaugh:

Demon Lord, it sounds to me like you could have a self-consciousness issue, I'm still suffering from this, but I'm beating it out of me little by little every chance I'm around lots of people. It is something that can't be overcome in one day, and you definitely need to be around more people than just this girl even your guy friends. You need to figure who you are before you can make any girl happy or interested in you. If you can make your male friends laugh and respect you ( this may not apply if they're clowns) then there's surely a female out there that would feel the same way about you. You must experiment and learn how people react to you.

By all means be yourself, but have commonsense, and also realize that what you say to the next date you go out with can't be all that weird. It sounds like you want everything you say to be perfect, so you remain quiet. It can't always be perfect. There are a lot of cute chicks that say the dumbest shit that makes them look foolish, but hey they're cute, usually arrogant and coincident, so they brush it off and move forward and make people forget about how stupid they made themselves look. Be the same way minus the arrogance of course. lol Start talking and sharing feelings and telling people about you. Just ask her what she has going on. If she says school or whatever then take it from there. But don't be quiet. I've never been on a date, but when I'm with a girl I can talk to her for a very long time. Some girls talk too much though, so be ready to listen a lot.

First impressions are important, but it's not the end of the world if you say something silly. You're a unique individual. Sometimes people expect you to act like everyone else, but sometimes the dork in people is what wins them that that great person.

You're on an Asian forum and you like Mikie Hara. You're already better off then some people. hahaha You don't seem that odd to me so stop feeling like you are.

[Boonz]

Hi Demon Lord,

As you can see, this is my very first post as I lurk around, usually, for what purpose you guys should know hahaha.

So for my virgin post, I'll like to share with you my thoughts based on what I read here.

I've went through your story and the advice given by other brothers here, and I think they give very sound advice and I am happy to see that things looked promising for you, at least initially.

I agree with all of them that - while I understand your desire to be extremely nice to her, you should not overdo the gentleman thing such that it puts you in a subservient kind of light.

But I have to disagree about the part to move on as I don't think things have come to that yet.

She seems like a pretty nice girl, at least that the perception I get from your posts.

If I understood correctly, your romantic interest wasn't indicating that she would not want to see you again, but rather she was sorry for not being able to spend more time with you because she had a timing to meet. In fact, I find it an encouraging point that she took initiative to mention that she IS sorry for not able to spend more time; i.e. may mean that she would wanted to and have, if she could.

The part where you behaved "like a rock" sounds bad, but I think it is not over yet. I guess it's all in the mindset; I think you should approach her like she is just a friend, and it is natural that you want to know her better as a friend. To break that silence, your topics should revolve around knowing her more while sharing abit of yourself, and in that process identifying areas of common interest (for example... erm, particular movies, hobbies, celebrities, shows, etc.) that'll grow the relationship.

The first few times might be a bit unnerving, but a few more times you might just ease yourself into a comfortable friendship if not relationship with her.

Lastly, about the guy in her life, do not be too disheartened about it; for she may be truly re-evaluating her relationship with the guy (there's a reason for the breakup, afterall).

So my take here is give it another try!

But do keep your hopes practical too because it's hard to say; but even if the end comes to failure, you'll grow with this experience and subsequently be better at the whole thing.


Good luck!

[vendetta87]

Hey Demon Lords,

Here's 2 cents from me....

I know how u feel...this is the 1st time eh ? 1st of all, a man should have pride do not simply apologize or being a slave. You just gotta relax, just act as if she's a normal friend of yours, it'll be fine. Its fine to laugh, tease her and make jokes. Do not be a wood and just relax and be urself. MInd u that myself is a bit big as well, just be confidence and be urself.

May I ask whats the status with her now ? Do not rush things, when u feel that she's ready only then you go ahead and confess. A couple of years a go, I met a gal on the train, and I've got her number, we texted and it was all positive, and I confessed to her a lil 2 fast, just a week after we met. Then she said she'll think bout it. Then i dated her our and she din reject me and she wanted to consider longer. That time I was seeking advice from a total cunt. And he ruined it....Nevertheless learnt a lesson. Some girls they don't reject you cuz they're afraid they'll hurt u, but in the end they ended up hurting u more cuz of giving false hopes and stuffs.

So demon lord...just chill and relax...:)

[ookami69]

Soon, she text me said, she is sorry because she cant spend with me longer.

I may have misinterpreted what you were trying to say here. After reading Boonz post I went back and re-read your last couple of paragraphs. In my last post, I was assuming she had said she doesn't want to see you again, but now I see she might have said she was sorry the date wasn't longer. If that's the case, it does change things and you still may have a chance here. But like vendetta says, try to relax and don't worry about messing up. If you do end up getting this girl that'll be awesome, I hope you get her. But if things don't work out, just remember you'll have more oppurtunities with other great girls later! So go for it and don't worry about failing. God knows I've messed up plenty of chances with girls.

Don't worry about the other guy, don't even ask about him. She should be thinking about you, not him. Find a fun event going on in town, call her up (don't text!), invite her out, and have fun! Keep in mind everything everyone has said here. Everyone's advice has been great.

[avadavat]

seems to me that the mean sounding announcement on her Facebook telling a guy to leave her alone wasn't directed at you but at her "ex". I'm not completely sure he really is an "ex" - girls have been known to lie from time to time, they're not always perfect little angels.

As for being wooden on your date, at least you went it alone - brave for a 2nd date! (three people together is a crowd, not good if you want to get closer to your date). And since you can text fairly well with her, on your 3rd date try to say the things verbally what you would have texted and then you've got it made. Ask her questions that require more than a yes/no response. that's the art of conversation. and people love talking about themselves. let them. if you feel uptight, turn the focus of the conversation to talking about the girl's life and interests. then eventually, if she's the considerate kind of person, she'll move the conversation back in your direction because she's interested in learning about you. be prepared for that - that's where the prior suggestion about hobbies comes in, have a story to tell. and if you find yourself stuck, shift the topic back over to her again.

don't go to a movie - I find sitting next to someone you don't know well awkward because you can't talk during the movie and it's dark. you're not at the stage yet where you can whisper in her ear and hold her hand - hope you can get there!

I recommend trying some sport that she might like but not be good at - ping pong, bowling, badminton. you don't want her to beat you too easily (or maybe you do, that might be kinda fun). something that's not too taxing if you're both not so fit and something where you can act goofy, make her laugh, and get to see her move around - that's one of the best parts of dates is watching the girl :)

[kawaiineko]

I keep massaging her everyday

best advice ever! girls just love massages! especially around the shoulders and behind her knees :blush:

[The Demon Lord]

Sorry for the very very late reply -again- because I'm quite busy with my college.

I would like to personally thank to all the guy who are helping me on this. You guys are totally great. Even my 'real' friends won't help me on this.


Ok, here is how it goes till now...

See been away to her college two days after our date and I can't see her anymore till the Chinese New Year where she went back to her home. It will be hard if I go to her college because her college is 400km away from here. Maybe I'll try to go there by bus or something for Valentine's day.


Soon after she registered at her college, she seem very busy. We do text but when texting suddenly she doesn't reply my message for hours. This things make me curious on her, my mind keep telling me 'Is she ignoring me?' 'She with someone else?'


You guys told me to call her, but I can't because she seem too busy. And if I call her, I think I don't know how to talk to her. I'm scared to be like a wood on the phone.


Anyway, thanks for teaching me and motivate me on my problem!

[Evildoer666]

i hope she is expecting you on valentine's day on her campus. remember....whatever you do, always leave yourself enough wiggle room.....

[Boonz]

Please continue to update us on your progress, Demon Lord, and all the best!

[jugojuice]

Sorry for the very very late reply -again- because I'm quite busy with my college.

I would like to personally thank to all the guy who are helping me on this. You guys are totally great. Even my 'real' friends won't help me on this.


Ok, here is how it goes till now...

See been away to her college two days after our date and I can't see her anymore till the Chinese New Year where she went back to her home. It will be hard if I go to her college because her college is 400km away from here. Maybe I'll try to go there by bus or something for Valentine's day.


Soon after she registered at her college, she seem very busy. We do text but when texting suddenly she doesn't reply my message for hours. This things make me curious on her, my mind keep telling me 'Is she ignoring me?' 'She with someone else?'


You guys told me to call her, but I can't because she seem too busy. And if I call her, I think I don't know how to talk to her. I'm scared to be like a wood on the phone.


Anyway, thanks for teaching me and motivate me on my problem!


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[ranmaz]

Soon after she registered at her college, she seem very busy. We do text but when texting suddenly she doesn't reply my message for hours. This things make me curious on her, my mind keep telling me 'Is she ignoring me?' 'She with someone else?'


You guys told me to call her, but I can't because she seem too busy. And if I call her, I think I don't know how to talk to her. I'm scared to be like a wood on the phone.


Anyway, thanks for teaching me and motivate me on my problem!

If she is still interested in a more personal relationship with you, I would believe that she would make the time to hang out with you.

Why not just pop her the question? "Do you think the 2 of us can be more than just friends?"

If she replies something like "I don't know", then you can say "For myself, I am wishing we can be more than just friends. What do you think of that idea?".
"If so, then I would like to arrange for us to try to spend more time with each other"

Then you'll know if she just wants friendship or not.

If she says yes, then you can start asking her for dates, times to meet up and hang out.

What do you think of this idea?

[joncache]

The one who cares less wins.

She has the upperhand in this situation now. Be cool and make yourself seem busy with activities and hang out with other girls. From what I deduce, she is just being nice and enjoying the attention you are giving her. It does not mean she has a liking for you. Which girl doesn't like being chased by many guys?

Stop messaging her so often, she is starting to take it for granted. Let her know that you are not a sucker. Cool off and once she feels you have drifted away, she will come back for you...Unless there is another sucker to take your place then just too bad. Move on.