Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) -- Move over ACTA - ScanLover Forum

Teddy · 02-02-2012, 06:22 AM

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/beyond-acta-next-secret-copyright-agreement-negotiated-this-weekin-hollywood.ars

Yet another stupid "secret" Hollywood funded/sponsored agreement. Supposedly this is possibly worse than ACTA. And the one being written/drafted now that hasn't been leaked will be worse than TPP, then one will be worse than that and so on and so on.

It seems like these assholes don't care to learn.

Teddy · 02-02-2012, 07:50 AM

See, ACTA, though bad, never aimed to go beyond US law.

This agreement/treaty/or whatever will go beyond what US law can do.

And why are people saying ACTA is European? America is the one pushing it, funded by Hollywood. No surprise. If Europe drafted it, why now sign it? People are celebrating Europe agreed to sign it as well. If they created it it should have been given they'd sign it and they should have been the first to sign. Not behind a few dozen countries.

And ACTA isn't new, ACTA is about as old as long as I've known Keibear. About 5-6 years.

erinys · 02-02-2012, 09:45 AM

The article mentions something of "buffer" copies being covered in the TPP Act but none of us have any way of knowing what's going on because it's secret business between the fat cats and the government. And by business, I mean, a product (an Act of law) in exchange for money.

Hopefully, Europe will turn down ACTA. Unfortunately, if they're anything like Britain, they are too computer illiterate and out of touch with the world around them that they'll just suck up to America. The only reason the UK would say no to this bullshit is if not signing the treaty saves money.

Still, if Big Content gets its own way and the only way to access their stuff is to pay for it, people will simply not want it. Why pay extortionate prices for trash that you can't watch or listen to in the format and manner you want? What will they do next, introduce a Big Content Licence that requires all internet users to pay else get a $1,000 fine just as with the British TV Licence?

I have a feeling that Big Content and its poor business model is hitting the buffers and making its final desperate attempts to stay afloat.

Teddy · 02-02-2012, 09:53 AM

That's the thing, ACTA isn't live yet, and it's not done having countries agree and sign it, yet they're working on something worse that does more? And I bet they're working on something now much worse than the TPP Agreement will be.

erinys · 02-02-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 北川テディー

That's the thing, ACTA isn't live yet, and it's not done having countries agree and sign it, yet they're working on something worse that does more? And I bet they're working on something now much worse than the TPP Agreement will be.

1. Get control of the Internet in America
2. Make an international treaty
3. Eliminate file sharing, wait till pirates find a workaround or stops taking content
4. Make 'TV licence' style law requiring everyone to pay to keep the content industry alive
5. ???
6. ENDLESS PROFIT

Duct Tape · 02-02-2012, 10:18 AM

they just walking to their path of doom..
BTW..how many months left until US elections?..
this is going to be really interesting, somehow TPP will become some major back fire for lots of politician in both US and EU during the campaign...exciting

Teddy · 02-02-2012, 10:22 AM

This makes me freak the frick out...

I'm going to give myself a massive stroke or heart attack, or both, one day. At least no more freaking out then OOPS. That's probably not good to joke about. Stupid cynic.

Duct Tape · 02-02-2012, 10:26 AM

the news it's already on the crowds, now it's depend how this can be spread to more large peoples...I guess ACTA will meet it's end here and makes another silly treaty to anticipated it...not going to work

Teddy · 02-02-2012, 10:31 AM

I'm freaking out and scared about what's coming, not the now......

Duct Tape · 02-02-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 北川テディー

I'm freaking out and scared about what's coming, not the now......

did this have anything to do with the treaty or...Keibear??

02-02-2012, 06:22 AM	#1
Teddy Paladin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,719 Thanks: 86,485 Thanked 12,420 Times in 3,505 Posts	Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) -- Move over ACTA http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/beyond-acta-next-secret-copyright-agreement-negotiated-this-weekin-hollywood.ars Yet another stupid "secret" Hollywood funded/sponsored agreement. Supposedly this is possibly worse than ACTA. And the one being written/drafted now that hasn't been leaked will be worse than TPP, then one will be worse than that and so on and so on. It seems like these assholes don't care to learn.

02-02-2012, 09:45 AM	#3
erinys The last Buddha Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: People's Republic of Britain Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 1,006 Thanked 1,648 Times in 762 Posts	The article mentions something of "buffer" copies being covered in the TPP Act but none of us have any way of knowing what's going on because it's secret business between the fat cats and the government. And by business, I mean, a product (an Act of law) in exchange for money. Hopefully, Europe will turn down ACTA. Unfortunately, if they're anything like Britain, they are too computer illiterate and out of touch with the world around them that they'll just suck up to America. The only reason the UK would say no to this bullshit is if not signing the treaty saves money. Still, if Big Content gets its own way and the only way to access their stuff is to pay for it, people will simply not want it. Why pay extortionate prices for trash that you can't watch or listen to in the format and manner you want? What will they do next, introduce a Big Content Licence that requires all internet users to pay else get a $1,000 fine just as with the British TV Licence? I have a feeling that Big Content and its poor business model is hitting the buffers and making its final desperate attempts to stay afloat. __________________ Alone in our lives. Together in our hearts. We are alone, together.

02-02-2012, 10:18 AM	#6
Duct Tape Mayan Apocalypse Survivor Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Away Posts: 4,391 Thanks: 19,778 Thanked 30,653 Times in 3,166 Posts	they just walking to their path of doom.. BTW..how many months left until US elections?.. this is going to be really interesting, somehow TPP will become some major back fire for lots of politician in both US and EU during the campaign...exciting __________________ Burn

02-02-2012, 10:26 AM	#8
Duct Tape Mayan Apocalypse Survivor Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Away Posts: 4,391 Thanks: 19,778 Thanked 30,653 Times in 3,166 Posts	the news it's already on the crowds, now it's depend how this can be spread to more large peoples...I guess ACTA will meet it's end here and makes another silly treaty to anticipated it...not going to work __________________ Burn

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02-02-2012, 07:50 AM	#2
Teddy Paladin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,719 Thanks: 86,485 Thanked 12,420 Times in 3,505 Posts	See, ACTA, though bad, never aimed to go beyond US law. This agreement/treaty/or whatever will go beyond what US law can do. And why are people saying ACTA is European? America is the one pushing it, funded by Hollywood. No surprise. If Europe drafted it, why now sign it? People are celebrating Europe agreed to sign it as well. If they created it it should have been given they'd sign it and they should have been the first to sign. Not behind a few dozen countries. And ACTA isn't new, ACTA is about as old as long as I've known Keibear. About 5-6 years.

02-02-2012, 09:53 AM	#4
Teddy Paladin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,719 Thanks: 86,485 Thanked 12,420 Times in 3,505 Posts	That's the thing, ACTA isn't live yet, and it's not done having countries agree and sign it, yet they're working on something worse that does more? And I bet they're working on something now much worse than the TPP Agreement will be.

02-02-2012, 10:22 AM	#7
Teddy Paladin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,719 Thanks: 86,485 Thanked 12,420 Times in 3,505 Posts	This makes me freak the frick out... I'm going to give myself a massive stroke or heart attack, or both, one day. At least no more freaking out then OOPS. That's probably not good to joke about. Stupid cynic.

02-02-2012, 10:31 AM	#9
Teddy Paladin Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,719 Thanks: 86,485 Thanked 12,420 Times in 3,505 Posts	I'm freaking out and scared about what's coming, not the now......